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Joanna's avatar

This is frightening. All parents should read.

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🐺The Wise Wolf's avatar

Yeah this is peak cringe stuff right here. It's so bad. There is a chat app called Discord that millions of teens use that is filled with this sort of stuff. I had to delete it because I felt so weird even investigating it.

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Michele Linehan's avatar

They're using What's App for nefarious purposes too!

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Nirmal And Gordon Engine In NY's avatar

I’m on discord (I’m in me 40’s and completely asexual.). Let me tell you, if u think discord is terrifying, you really don’t want to know the darker side of Facebook, instagram, TikTok, twitter, and such. Even YouTube and personal blogs have been used for this purpose for a couple decades now. It horrified me when I was more impressionable in me 20’s. There are some mobile chat sites such as pepperonity, airg, faceparty, mocospace, and other mobile chat sites are just as bad. We like to think that children are innocent….and they are not. Not always. These sites have been spaces for young and older folk alike to show off their bodies and exchange private information. Some have even met up. A lot of western culture and East Asian culture women use these sites to seek sex and attention from eastern culture men, especially Arab and South Asian men - of whom are often extremely impressionable.

In fact, I had several groups of people with age ranges from early teens-to their 30’s harass me and make incredibly disgusting, trauma inducing sexually inappropriate false accusations. One teenager even made a sexually vulgar post about me on Reddit, then called me a predator, and got others to support him. I’m not the least bit interested in anyone, especially not children. The same person had a mate of his send porn to a 14 year old.

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Carolyn Glass's avatar

Do you help others identify these scammers. What do you feel from your experience is the best source to report scammers when you find them? I have reported several times to the FBI but I see them still on social media

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Alan Bleiken's avatar

In regards to inadequate law enforcement capacity. I take a slightly more cynical view. I am not suggesting all law enforcement agencies are involved in these rackets, just the lions share of them. Those in control of these agencies have the same capacity to be bought off as the teenage girls. The stakes are higher, and likely the pay is too. You do not need many involved to turn a blind eye to criminal activity, just those at the top. The lackey, bottom end cops can be kepy busy investigating and arresting people who post online concerns about their governments corruption. The UK is currently leading the charge down that road to hell, but we all know all western countries wlll join that satanic racket, as will 99% of all our politicians.

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🐺The Wise Wolf's avatar

In my 20s, I was a much different person - very reckless. Partied alot. I met this cop that worked for the Vice Squad in Pittsburgh busting pimps, drug dealers, counterfeiters etc. The guy was constantly on coke he'd still from the evidence locker, kept a small pistol on his ankle in case he had to shoot someone he could plant it on them and claim they pulled it on him, stole money out of evidence, and would arrest prostitutes and tell them if they had sex with him and his wife - he would let them go. I wager most cops are just as corrupt as this guy was.

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Alan Bleiken's avatar

I too have sewn plenty wild oats in my youth. I worked in a service station as a teenager that serviced the local police cars. We got to know them all fairly well. Back then, in the 70s, I would say most of them were pretty fair. They let me off the hook a couple times when the outcome should have been different. There were also the egoists among them. I think over the decades since then things have gotten way worse. The cops no longer work for the public, with the exception of wsmall things for their own PR. They work for the globalists, who have captured all the public institutions in Canada.

The Truckers Convoy exposed them completely. There are no institutions I trust anymore, and that includes "the church". They are all captured, and serving the cabal narrative, whether they understand it or not.

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GardenGranny's avatar

This is precisely why I prayed for God to remove my fear before my post about blue lights after lights out and more. Eventually we will have dims leading DOJ and as president-and they jailed J6 attendees for much less than my meager posts.

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GardenGranny's avatar

Agreed, but not just teens and not just girls.

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David A Sutton PA-C's avatar

Hell is going to get a lot of business. They know not whatd they're risking going after young beautiful ladies and manipulating them. The millstone and deepest ocean parable applies except it was really a warning

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🐺The Wise Wolf's avatar

Yeah, this is bad. I mean - any man is going to find an 18 year old young woman attractive but these guys are targeting 12-15 year olds specifically for this crap. It's disgusting. I had to talk to a psychiatrist after we did the research on this one. I was so messed up from what I learned. I had no real idea this was happening until Lily mentioned it during one of our meetings and then I started looking into it... and wow. I could not believe it. 5 minutes on Discord and I found dozens of girls and content sellers doing this. This is a chat app millions of teens use too.

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GardenGranny's avatar

Kids don’t need ANY devices (not just phones) in their bedrooms at night. I know someone who enforces this rule, without exception. Beware of a younger sibling unable to sleep because of a blue light in a shared bedroom (see below).

I know of a hospital where groomed/caught/“exhibiting” kids stay for months in a locked ward, too scared to say a peep, when caught having an online “night life.” Imagine trying to explain that half year or year away to college admissions or the kid’s friends when groomed kid heals enough to return to school, or adjust to a new school.

Grooming can happen at school. Don’t assume adults; it may be friend or classmate, under the sneaky tutelage of a skilled predator urging victim to invite a friend.

Some kids play “show and tell” for free because they crave attention and a devious groomer tells them they’re special. A young boy “only child” whose divorced parents kept sniping was recruited before 7th grade. The custodial parent was enamored with new relationship. An online “friend” (groomer) earned this hurt boy’s confidence, THEN came out as adult. Pig taught boy (not teen) to install an app and share … videography.

I repeat: great family rule is NO DEVICES in rooms at night. Maybe turn off wi fi at night so savvy kid doesn’t retrieve phone (or use their gifted phone you don’t know about) during lights out.

Granny wishes she knew less of the harm this predatory grooming causes families. Prayers to author and the groomed, and their families. This is rampant.

Sometimes parents who report this to authorities are informed they’re in possession of child pornography. What a conundrum—getting rid of device disposes of evidence, could give rise to an obstruction charge and thwarting prosecution. Someone in this predicament may choose to consult with a criminal defense lawyer to CYA and the kid’s (or kids’) too. Yep, a minor sharing themselves to a groomer is also technically a criminal.

Finally, perhaps most importantly, PLEASE check your kids’ tablet or school device. Anyone can install an app at school or on the bus, to be used after lights out.

Beware of blue lights after lights out.

If you share these thoughts please consider cut and paste instead of restacking. Granny is old and if they found author, Granny is a sitting old duck.

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Michael  Lynch's avatar

I have shared this online. This is one of the most frightening things I have read. Parents and Families NEED to know this. My extended family has been touched by this.

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GardenGranny's avatar

Ditto. No devices in bedrooms at night. Blue light not allowed. No exceptions.

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Istv's avatar

Thank you for your Service!!

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Paul LaPosta's avatar

This made me sick to read.

Not because it is shocking, but because it is routine. Predation scaled into a workflow, then disguised as “content” so people can look away without admitting they did.

If you are a parent reading this and you feel that cold drop in your stomach, trust it. Talk to your kid. Not with panic, not with punishment. With clarity: you are safe with me, and you will not get in trouble for telling me early.

And if you are a platform person who thinks this is “edge case behavior,” it is not. You built a reach machine. Recommendation algorithms, monetization, frictionless DMs, and weak enforcement make reach cheap and harm scalable. Predators will use it until you make it expensive, detectable, and punishable.

I am sorry this exists. I am angrier that it is allowed to be profitable.

This persists because men let it. The ones who do it rely on the rest of us staying quiet. That silence is complicity with industrial-scale harm.

If you know a guy who talks about girls in ways that make your skin crawl, you already know. You do not need a court case to stop vouching for him. Distance yourself. Stop covering. Stop excusing. Stop laughing it off. Report what you can. Make it costly to keep him close.

Predators bank on other men being too cowardly to act on what we already see.

We built the system that scales this. We profit from the reach. We look away from the cost.

No wonder women would rather meet a bear. Silence is the subsidy.

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GardenGranny's avatar

I agree with everything you said, except there exists female predators too. Epstein’s mate comes to mind, and jailed teachers who seduced male students. Yes, mainly male but enough women to remember not to let predators of either gender slip by unnoticed.

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Paul LaPosta's avatar

You are right that predators can be any gender, and they should all be held accountable. None of them get a pass. I agree with you.

But respectfully, I disagree with shifting the focus to include “some women too.” Not because it is not an issue, but because it is a much smaller part of the problem. This article, and even cases like Epstein, are not ambiguous on the pattern. By and large, men are the aggressors here, and men have to own this problem.

In systems terms: you fix the constraint first. There is one bottleneck at a time, and until the primary bottleneck moves, improvements elsewhere do not change outcomes. Solve the main driver, then you go hunt the next bottleneck.

And the main driver here is men. If men were not out there looking to prey on children, we would be having a very different conversation.

Too many men have been given a pass. Too much gets laughed off, waved away as “boys will be boys” or “locker room talk.” It is rampant, and it is disgusting.

We, men, have to hold ourselves and each other accountable. No more covering, no more vouching, no more excuses.

Patch the biggest hole in the boat first. Once we are not sinking, then we can start fixing the other systems.

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GardenGranny's avatar

You’re right! Thanks for explaining.🤓I’m never too old to learn.

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hans jonsson's avatar

Great Article! Thank You.

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Marcia Starr's avatar

Yes, it is frightening. Yes all parents should read this and hate it. This is not just about girls. It is about boys as well. Years ago. I found that my grandson was posting on Onlyfans. This was discovered when I reviewed my bank statement and saw a charge to Onlyfans. No one knew anything about this site. Imagine my shock when I discovered what it was about. He was not secretive. He was not spending lavishly. He was not quiet nor did he disengage. Life seemed very normal. It wasn’t. It never was again. When he turned 18, he made the choice to leave our home so that he could continue with his “work”. I did not know that he was smoking marijuana and drinking alcohol. There was never any evidence, even in hindsight. It is three years later and he is still struggling to separate himself. His life is like a yo-yo. Clean, sober and free of sexual exploitation, followed by a period where he seems to succumb to his past. Friends and family hold him in prayer. I asked him to sit quietly and hear God speak to him and allow Jesus to work within his life. Please be watchful.

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Salahuddin Costa's avatar

Prayer helps, no doubt.

Shocking shit, may the Lord save our youth! The West is f***ed up!

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GardenGranny's avatar

Prayers for you and your family, Marcia. My heart aches for you. I can relate.

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🐺The Wise Wolf's avatar

restack this so other people can see it please.

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Dawn's avatar

This is terrifying! The evil that exists in our world is horrific. That you for reporting this and I’ll be praying for your safety.

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Abigail Chis's avatar

Can you share which platforms they are targeting kids on?

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Ellen Ashley's avatar

Reading this made me very thankful that I don’t have underage children and that my homeschooled grandchildren are adults. Reading this also made me realize that I have led a very sheltered life. It is horrifying that powerful criminal organizations that are exploiting young teens Wise Wolf wrote about in this post are existing. Very frightening, indeed.

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My Friend Lisa's avatar

I want to share this article but I don't like the tongue video at the beginning.

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GardenGranny's avatar

I hate it too. It is effective. Some dang predator talks kids into doing that, then a bit more, like a frog in a pot of warm water.

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RJ Sykes's avatar

This is scary stuff. No need for kids to have the internet.

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Roger Knowles's avatar

And the really scary thing is that our government does not prioritize going after these evil criminals.

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RockenOn's avatar

VENGENCE. MAKES ME WANNA KILL THESE FUCKS, IN VERY SLOW, PAINFUL, TIMELESS WAYS. I KNOW HOW, SHOW ME WHERE TO GO…

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Laurie Holm's avatar

Wow! Quite eye opening & scary 😳😳

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