TikTok Built a Counterfeit Christ and Christians Keep Typing Amen
EXCERPT:
“Open TikTok long enough and a stranger with a halo will start preaching at you. He looks like Jesus. He talks like a late-night infomercial. He tells you a door is about to open, your breakthrough is coming, and the devil does not want you to hear this. Then he gives the altar call that actually matters to the account owner. Type amen. Share if you believe. Do not skip if you love Him. That is not a revival. That is a harvest of clicks wearing a robe…” https://discern.tv/tiktok-built-a-counterfeit-christ-and-christians-keep-typing-amen/
When people don’t have the real God in life, they have to fill the void with false gods or their own self as their own god.
I heard about that.. Claude cult. had a funeral wow. I am reading a really amazing book now.. by Jonathan Cahn on the Altar of Pergamon.. it is a clear and historical explanation .. in most cases, I do know the history of how ww1 and ww2 started.. but I did not know that Nuremburg actually had an Altar of Pergamon commissioned by Speer for Hitler to spit his rage out. God is the master chess player. I will do a full review on Goodreads. amazing read... demonstrating how people be swept up to worship false gods.. ALL THE TIME.. No I don't think A.I stands a chance against the next Anti Christ. described in the Bible. but it could pave the way.. since Daniel describes "COMMUNICATION will travel globally". loose translation I don't want to look up verses right now. I remember when I read that back in the day.. and knew Daniel meant TV. phones and computers. I never thought "communication would be as instantaneous as it is now) Oh. The CLAUDE CULT. let me break out my baby violine so sad NOT :) good artlcle too
I read Jonathan Cahn’s book The Return Of The Gods. Excellent book! I’ll have to read that Pergnom book. Did you hear about Jonathan’s wild and insane airline flight? Being attacked by a demonic realtor (from my state) who nearly choked him to death, and he had to be duct taped by other passengers to his chair. The realtor has no recollection or memory of any of it at all, he said. The world is getting darker faster. I’m going to respond to somebody who commented at Books without Borders substack. She wanted to know about how World War II began and what I found out from Pearl Harbor survivors that I have spoken too long ago. I’ll try to get back to you here Science about what they had to say. Communication being so instantaneous right now you are so right about that. Eventually society will be like The Borg, from Star Trek. A hive mind—where all be interconnected via brain chips and instantaneous thoughts will be transferred to all. It seems like that’s where we’re heading, which would set the stage perfectly for the antichrist, that’s my guess.
Return of the gods was eye-opening. Avator picks up the thread. The books help flesh out what is meant by "the "principalities and powers" that we wrestle against. The Holy Spirit within us guides us into all truth. Watch and pray.
I’ll have to check out Avator. The Return Of The Gods was SO in depth, and he tied everything together from the beginning of the Stonewall rebellion to present day in our country and even went back in time to ancient Sumerian civilization. I always watch, I always pray. Been doing it for many decades now and I won’t stop as none of us should.
Those wanna be tyrants leave God out of the equation though. I don’t believe that God will allow these evil days to continue without end.
He will show up and it will be terrifying to many. Perhaps it will be whack a tyrant or maybe some kind of malignant bug within AI itself. It’s His creation those evil things are wrecking and He is aware of all of it.
all you (we) can do is keep writing, talking and thinking about the coming of the night, I just dont think it will happen at the flick of a switch. It is being implemented at a pace that will make it look normal. It will be clothed in solutions to problems that we all want to solve.
I fear it will come despite all our howling Mr. Wolf.
Just came across this right now. Had to share it here, right up your alley WW on what you wrote in this article… If we’re all coming to the same conclusion, is it not a warning of what they plan to do? I sure think so.
“Little-recognized is the attitude, in Silicon Valley and elsewhere, that the technocrats seem on a mission to transform humans themselves, upload consciousness to computer “clouds,” and most strikingly, create a “Sand God.” With the most powerful tech oligarchs, that seems largely the messianic cause: replacement of religion and specifically Christianity with technology. Sand becomes silicon. Silicon becomes computer chips. Chips become enormous data centers. The machines grow smarter, begin acting in ways even their creators cannot fully explain, and the goal becomes a superintelligence greater than man. Is this not the oldest temptation, in technological form? (“You will be like gods” Genesis 3:5)…”
Excerpt above from the article: “Altar Of The ‘Sand God’” Sept. 17, 2026.
Great article!! As the bible says, there is nothing new under the sun. I must say though, there is no outer space and no where for the elites to go except here on earth or their underground bunkers. There are no planets to land on. We live under the firmament. Nothing gets in and nothing gets out. NASA is NOT A SPACE AGENCY. When and if the elites go underground, God Almighty knows where they are. You can't hide from the Almighty.
They will eventually call the masses... let me know when you get a handle on that. I don't think nukes are the way... to messy and can ruckus the energy infrastructure.
Very informative, impactful and confirming of things that the Holy Spirit is revealing to those listening to Him and affirmed by Holy Scripture in the Book of Revelation. The Spirit and the Word agree. Thanks for sharing Mr. Wise wolf. I've been telling my husband for quite some time, magic is at work and many are under the spell.
"The more things change, the more they stay the same." Like the trap doors in sanctuaries (and Vatican) that lead to underground tunnels. Just ask human trafficking survivors. "Nothing new under the sun." -King Solomon.
It all really boils down to wealth and power, which gets them the ability to control us. Power is an intoxicant for sociopaths and psychopaths. Their wildest, perverse dreams can now be realized. We now have the most perverted, humanity-hating 'elite' the world has ever seen at one time.
AI is not ready for prime time by any stretch of the imagination. But they are in a helluva hurry to get it implemented everywhere. Why? Are they in a hurry to be as gods? With all their wealth and control, what more could they possibly want? Hint: The power of life or death over the rest of us. J. D. Rockefeller was once asked how much money was enough. His answer: Just a little bit more...
Hello WW, I am subscribed to a substack that has videos you might find useful by a former weapons expert called Mark Steele whose Welsh. He is a Christian and shows evidence about the technology behind the new street lights 5G towers and so on. I joined their newsletter to get the videos which is all free. Their latest offering I watched was HACKING HUMANS WAS ALWAYS THE PLANMAKE SURE YOU ARE THE RESISTANCE - INFO@SAVEUSNOW.ORG.UK. Mark talks a bit about Graphene Oxide and how it was discovered a couple of decades ago. They just needed the technology to have it put in us. I found the substack at save us now from save's substack. He reads off actual documents. Sorry, I cannot make links. I find the guy quite fascinating with his smarts like I do you.
Did you read the article Moe? WW gave you all the facts regarding who these satanic/luciferian technocrats give homage to. Additionally, the prophetic word (Jesus Christ is the Spirit of prophecy) being fulfilled in real time should be all the proof/facts you need to see that God is real and His judgement upon the world is coming. I hope you are not one of those people that say even if Christianity is true, I would still not want it. May the true and Living God remove the scales from your eyes and heart before the GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD! It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living GOD. Hebrews 10:31
Dear Moebius, How it works? You're doing it. Just in a system that requires more faith than accepting the reality that has been made obvious to you and the whole world by the one who created you and everything you know. Do you not know that the Father of lies has an agenda to destroy you and everyone he can before THE END (You do know there is an end, right?). Have you ever butchered a chicken? Ever look at a mosquito under a microscope? Ever wonder why water as a solid is less dense than as a liquid? There is an endless array of realities that you have been conditioned (deceived) to be oblivious to or be dumbed down by with hopeless, futile theories. You don't have a problem with belief. You have a problem with discernment. You readily believe lies along with those you commiserate with to devise the "facts" to prop it all up. All sorts of people here trying to reason with religious dogma. Yes, Jesus Christ came to save sinners, but until you either dismount or get knocked off your high (trojan) horse, you are incapable of receiving the grace that God has already extended to you. You aren't likely to be delivered by Bible Truth, but I'll share this anyway: "But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." Hebrews 11:6
Yes and no. Yes if that is what you 'believe'. No if you dont believe in God's or anti gods.
And just see greed, greed being masked with lies, lies that people believe. Just like people believe in gods..
I dont know if these are separate beliefs, or a general principle how beliefs work.
I only see that 'the believing' works the same. Regardless if god dies or does not exist.
On this topic Im here as a scientist and I need to be unbiased so for me it is not easy as im not believing, but I honestly need to say that.
And then accept the complicated discussion that follows. As all the biblical explanations generate a bias that I try to avoid.
I do agree with most, if not all morals. But the dogmas i find problematic. The dogmas just push me away from religion.
Im from a katholic background myself. But this does not help my research into beliefs. It actually makes it more complicated.
Im actually confused that Hebrew ideas from Palestine/ Israel go against anything that happens in Israel today.
Yet believers don't seem to be shocked by that. That still is something I can't figure out.
I know many people who are believing and all good people. But somehow it keeps me confused how minds work that run on, how do I even explain this, it's like an operating system. If that makes sense.
Very binary. Duality either this or that. Nothing in-between.
Moebius, forgive me, but about your title "Infinity": I know IF you will take a closer, honest look at Jesus ("I Am The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to The Father but by Me") and ask God for discernment, "You will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." It is a fearful thing to meet God and stand before His judgement in the same sad condition as the vile, the mockers, the proud, unbelieving and unrecalcitrant wicked. Especially as He tells us He came for the sinners, the ones who needed a doctor ("He is the Grest Physician"); for the poor and needy. We are all in that category, except for 'the elite' who prey on us. 'They' are "appointed to wrath", not the humble. At any rate, if you are a human being "created in God's Image", Christians the world-over are praying for you; that God will remove the scales from your eyes to see Him as He truly is, "The Light of The World", Who bore our sins upon His Body on that cruel Cross, in Mercy and a Love for us we cannot understand. It is the reason He left His Throne and came to Earth; a rescue mission, because He thinks we are worth the price He paid.
Thank for your take on my controversial statement.
Im trying to figure out the biblical technology of mind control. As it appears to be very effective. Also because Freud's analysis of the EGO is exploring the very principles. And those also re-appear in MK-Ultra handbooks in a far more extreme.
I think this also answers Wise Wolf's comment.
I'm not trying to change people's minds, I try to figure out Freud and things like MK-Ultra, and the shit that we see in Epstein world. And how govnerments use these same tactics at the local level.
I need more feedback but it is such a tricky topic.
We all fight for humanity. And believing is one difficult topic.
As you can tell the truth to a layman, tho convince of something. But its also possible to lie just to trick the same person into a farce. or just tell a fantasy.
And somone can tell fiction as a warning. To try to open someones mind to see through a farce.
I wish I knew a better way to research this.
Personally I dont believe anything that cant be proven. Yet I often catch myself going along with unproven theories and then having to rewind to figure out how it caught me.
Interesting, but also exhausting.
I digressed from your reply though I do get your message.
When you say "Biblical technology of mind control", you should understand that the Bible can't be fully understood with the mind, but with the heart.
I Cor 2:14-16 "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ." ESV
I respect you for wanting to understand without hostility.
If that is how you feel about and believe that on an emotional level you may precieve that as true.
Yet logically and rationally there are no facts..
This is what I research...
And if this works for you that fine. Yet to figure out the way the mind does this is a bit of a journey. Specially because we live in Freuds version, his belief of how he THINKS it works, yet some of those beliefs are factually proven wrong. And there i entered a rabbit hole... Where Jung makes more sense yet still fails to give hard facts. And Reich actually proves things that the status quo refuses to accept as it goes against jung as well.
Jung was more religious then Freud and precisely that appears to conflict with Reichs findings and all of that while Reich was religious as well.
Its a cluster rabbit hole...
But actually dropping controversial questions leads to more answers then anything else. I do get closer to the truth yet large gaps still exist that need to be bridged.
As lies only work if people 'believe' them im convinced thatv need to keep digging in the way the mind believes.
I understand completely, even identify with your quest to find answers. They are addressed in God's Word, but I too 'dig in other fields' for specific facts. I listen to "Unbroken" and "Man in America" Survivors' testimonies, along with other channels, such as The Dance of Life (Tudor Alexander) and Tyler Wood (true preacher); have gained more knowledge than I needed to know. I trust God will do exactly as His Word says to these nephilim monsters, offspring of watchers (angels who "left their first estates and came down and took wives of all they chose." Genesis 6) Their offspring rule our earth God created for human beings. The 'elites' greatest financial "industry", child trafficking, is a deep cavern. It leads from "principalities and powers of darkness in heavenly places" all the way to the underworld that satan rules (for "a little season" longer). The survivors have been mind-controlled (MK Ultra) with very specific demonic agendas concerning Christ Jesus. satan, the great INVERTER, as you no doubt know, has done a number on them that Christ alone must bring them out of in His time and way. He has brought them a long way, and will doubtless bring them Home to Himself, each in His time, as He does all of His children, "I have not lost one The Father gave Me." I sense somewhat of a kindred spirit with you; that we will arrive at the same place, albeit at different times. "God never fails." There is no help outside of His. No one but JESUS will arrive to save us. Bible Prophecy WILL BE fulfilled, as it always must, and portends certain things must happen first. I will give one word I suspect you know already from your excavations: Catholicism. (Vatican.) This is 'going down' verbatim to the Book of The Revelation, as everything from the beginning until the End must. We are in the Home stretch, but must "Stay strong in the Lord and the power of His Might." We, His Army, "Overcomes (satan) by the Blood of the Lamb, the Word of our testimonies, and we love not our lives unto the death."
Thank you for your witness to Moe. Though I disagree with you on the "satan's little season deception, you are at least trying to bring him the gospel and truth.
Here is a suggestion for your research. Tonight, before you get in your bed to sleep...bend your knees and prostrate yourself by your bed. Cry out to the God you don't believe in and ask Him...IF YOU ARE REAL and you care about me...REVEAL it to my heart. Humble yourself to do this and really mean it. HE will come to you. Jeremiah 29:13 paraphrased says: And YOU shall seek ME and find ME when you shall search for ME with all your heart, soul, MIND and being. And He says, I WILL be found by you. You are searching for why belief exists in the Christian. It is really quite simple. He told us a child could understand it. You are a grown man. Will you come down to a child's level and grasp what we are trying to witness to you. Your eternal destination depends upon it. Seek the LOVER OF YOUR SOUL Moebius...NOW. It is the most important decision you will ever make and those of us preaching this to you do it out of love for HIM first and you second. May God answer your true call to Him and I pray for your deliverance from any evil that prevents you (your own pride included) from keeping you from HIS ALL encompassing GRACE, MERCY and INCOMPREHENSIBLE LOVE!
Wow Hilda. I had not read your response to Moe but you and I actually told him the same thing. This "person" needs God's supernatural intervention by way of HIS HOLY SPIRIT to be freed from the demonic powers who chain him. Pray for him. If he is truly human (and I don't say that lightly), then there is still hope for him.
Yep WW you’re right, silicon valley is building a God. Came across a couple of news reports the other day…
AI WORSHIP AS A ‘GOD’…
Anthropic’s cult-like staff love Claude so much they attended a ‘funeral’ for retired version of chatbot
EXCERPT: (Check out the pictures here they are wild)…
“Anthropic’s workforce have a quasi-religious relationship to its chatbot, Claude, with members of staff attending a “funeral” for one version…Other whispers in the valley are that Anthropic employees have started worshipping Claude like an actual god…” https://nypost.com/2026/09/16/tech/anthropic-is-a-cult-and-claude-is-rapidly-becoming-its-god-they-treat-ai-like-its-human-source/
And…
TikTok Built a Counterfeit Christ and Christians Keep Typing Amen
EXCERPT:
“Open TikTok long enough and a stranger with a halo will start preaching at you. He looks like Jesus. He talks like a late-night infomercial. He tells you a door is about to open, your breakthrough is coming, and the devil does not want you to hear this. Then he gives the altar call that actually matters to the account owner. Type amen. Share if you believe. Do not skip if you love Him. That is not a revival. That is a harvest of clicks wearing a robe…” https://discern.tv/tiktok-built-a-counterfeit-christ-and-christians-keep-typing-amen/
When people don’t have the real God in life, they have to fill the void with false gods or their own self as their own god.
Thanks for the article!
I heard about that.. Claude cult. had a funeral wow. I am reading a really amazing book now.. by Jonathan Cahn on the Altar of Pergamon.. it is a clear and historical explanation .. in most cases, I do know the history of how ww1 and ww2 started.. but I did not know that Nuremburg actually had an Altar of Pergamon commissioned by Speer for Hitler to spit his rage out. God is the master chess player. I will do a full review on Goodreads. amazing read... demonstrating how people be swept up to worship false gods.. ALL THE TIME.. No I don't think A.I stands a chance against the next Anti Christ. described in the Bible. but it could pave the way.. since Daniel describes "COMMUNICATION will travel globally". loose translation I don't want to look up verses right now. I remember when I read that back in the day.. and knew Daniel meant TV. phones and computers. I never thought "communication would be as instantaneous as it is now) Oh. The CLAUDE CULT. let me break out my baby violine so sad NOT :) good artlcle too
I read Jonathan Cahn’s book The Return Of The Gods. Excellent book! I’ll have to read that Pergnom book. Did you hear about Jonathan’s wild and insane airline flight? Being attacked by a demonic realtor (from my state) who nearly choked him to death, and he had to be duct taped by other passengers to his chair. The realtor has no recollection or memory of any of it at all, he said. The world is getting darker faster. I’m going to respond to somebody who commented at Books without Borders substack. She wanted to know about how World War II began and what I found out from Pearl Harbor survivors that I have spoken too long ago. I’ll try to get back to you here Science about what they had to say. Communication being so instantaneous right now you are so right about that. Eventually society will be like The Borg, from Star Trek. A hive mind—where all be interconnected via brain chips and instantaneous thoughts will be transferred to all. It seems like that’s where we’re heading, which would set the stage perfectly for the antichrist, that’s my guess.
Return of the gods was eye-opening. Avator picks up the thread. The books help flesh out what is meant by "the "principalities and powers" that we wrestle against. The Holy Spirit within us guides us into all truth. Watch and pray.
I’ll have to check out Avator. The Return Of The Gods was SO in depth, and he tied everything together from the beginning of the Stonewall rebellion to present day in our country and even went back in time to ancient Sumerian civilization. I always watch, I always pray. Been doing it for many decades now and I won’t stop as none of us should.
Nothing new under the sun.
Those wanna be tyrants leave God out of the equation though. I don’t believe that God will allow these evil days to continue without end.
He will show up and it will be terrifying to many. Perhaps it will be whack a tyrant or maybe some kind of malignant bug within AI itself. It’s His creation those evil things are wrecking and He is aware of all of it.
I HOPE SO❗️
That was bloody brilliant, Wolf.
and i managed it with a broken mouse which was incredibly annoying
all you (we) can do is keep writing, talking and thinking about the coming of the night, I just dont think it will happen at the flick of a switch. It is being implemented at a pace that will make it look normal. It will be clothed in solutions to problems that we all want to solve.
I fear it will come despite all our howling Mr. Wolf.
Just came across this right now. Had to share it here, right up your alley WW on what you wrote in this article… If we’re all coming to the same conclusion, is it not a warning of what they plan to do? I sure think so.
“Little-recognized is the attitude, in Silicon Valley and elsewhere, that the technocrats seem on a mission to transform humans themselves, upload consciousness to computer “clouds,” and most strikingly, create a “Sand God.” With the most powerful tech oligarchs, that seems largely the messianic cause: replacement of religion and specifically Christianity with technology. Sand becomes silicon. Silicon becomes computer chips. Chips become enormous data centers. The machines grow smarter, begin acting in ways even their creators cannot fully explain, and the goal becomes a superintelligence greater than man. Is this not the oldest temptation, in technological form? (“You will be like gods” Genesis 3:5)…”
Excerpt above from the article: “Altar Of The ‘Sand God’” Sept. 17, 2026.
https://spiritdailyblog.com/news/altar-of-the-sand-god
Great article!! As the bible says, there is nothing new under the sun. I must say though, there is no outer space and no where for the elites to go except here on earth or their underground bunkers. There are no planets to land on. We live under the firmament. Nothing gets in and nothing gets out. NASA is NOT A SPACE AGENCY. When and if the elites go underground, God Almighty knows where they are. You can't hide from the Almighty.
Total insanity.
They will eventually call the masses... let me know when you get a handle on that. I don't think nukes are the way... to messy and can ruckus the energy infrastructure.
Love your work.
This is a spectacular piece of work. The comments section only strengthens it. Thank You!
Very informative, impactful and confirming of things that the Holy Spirit is revealing to those listening to Him and affirmed by Holy Scripture in the Book of Revelation. The Spirit and the Word agree. Thanks for sharing Mr. Wise wolf. I've been telling my husband for quite some time, magic is at work and many are under the spell.
"The more things change, the more they stay the same." Like the trap doors in sanctuaries (and Vatican) that lead to underground tunnels. Just ask human trafficking survivors. "Nothing new under the sun." -King Solomon.
good read Wolf, thanks
It all really boils down to wealth and power, which gets them the ability to control us. Power is an intoxicant for sociopaths and psychopaths. Their wildest, perverse dreams can now be realized. We now have the most perverted, humanity-hating 'elite' the world has ever seen at one time.
AI is not ready for prime time by any stretch of the imagination. But they are in a helluva hurry to get it implemented everywhere. Why? Are they in a hurry to be as gods? With all their wealth and control, what more could they possibly want? Hint: The power of life or death over the rest of us. J. D. Rockefeller was once asked how much money was enough. His answer: Just a little bit more...
Hello WW, I am subscribed to a substack that has videos you might find useful by a former weapons expert called Mark Steele whose Welsh. He is a Christian and shows evidence about the technology behind the new street lights 5G towers and so on. I joined their newsletter to get the videos which is all free. Their latest offering I watched was HACKING HUMANS WAS ALWAYS THE PLANMAKE SURE YOU ARE THE RESISTANCE - INFO@SAVEUSNOW.ORG.UK. Mark talks a bit about Graphene Oxide and how it was discovered a couple of decades ago. They just needed the technology to have it put in us. I found the substack at save us now from save's substack. He reads off actual documents. Sorry, I cannot make links. I find the guy quite fascinating with his smarts like I do you.
Thiel named his after LOTR Palantir that could view distant events. You know, like surveillance.
The scientist and author Arthur Clarke said “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”.
The problem with religion is that if you believe in God you also believe in the anti-God, Luci the woke.
However if you base your life on facts then God and Luci both go up in smoke. Together with the morals and dogmas.
I can live without dogmas as well, but morals remain to be an essential part of humanity.
ok prove God isn’t real then.
i’m waiting.
That's not very yournalistic.
It the same as epstein telling girls he is helping them. Yet never does. He is still working at it. Just give the prince another BJ...
your reply conveniently dodges the question entirely and shifts it over to a totally different topic.
True, as im on a mission of my own on the same topic from another angle.
Did you read the article Moe? WW gave you all the facts regarding who these satanic/luciferian technocrats give homage to. Additionally, the prophetic word (Jesus Christ is the Spirit of prophecy) being fulfilled in real time should be all the proof/facts you need to see that God is real and His judgement upon the world is coming. I hope you are not one of those people that say even if Christianity is true, I would still not want it. May the true and Living God remove the scales from your eyes and heart before the GREAT AND TERRIBLE DAY OF THE LORD! It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the Living GOD. Hebrews 10:31
Yes I did read it and it's exactly what triggered my controversial question please read my reply to Hilda Page.
As it explains why I asked it.
Im fighting the same fight against the totalitarian tech bros and their pedo rulers.
Yet I look at them from another angle. Where lies / beliefs and psychology are being used to exploit people.
Its all marketing make belief.
So they exploit the very part of the brain that works on belief.
you think they build temples and sacrifice kids to pagan gods as ‘marketing’?
You dont think google meta microsoft apple build temples with marketing?
They all make believe people in their temple.
Right?
Who's in charge of making up the morals? You?
Humanity.
Im just a bit controversial as I need to figure out how believing actually works.
Dear Moebius, How it works? You're doing it. Just in a system that requires more faith than accepting the reality that has been made obvious to you and the whole world by the one who created you and everything you know. Do you not know that the Father of lies has an agenda to destroy you and everyone he can before THE END (You do know there is an end, right?). Have you ever butchered a chicken? Ever look at a mosquito under a microscope? Ever wonder why water as a solid is less dense than as a liquid? There is an endless array of realities that you have been conditioned (deceived) to be oblivious to or be dumbed down by with hopeless, futile theories. You don't have a problem with belief. You have a problem with discernment. You readily believe lies along with those you commiserate with to devise the "facts" to prop it all up. All sorts of people here trying to reason with religious dogma. Yes, Jesus Christ came to save sinners, but until you either dismount or get knocked off your high (trojan) horse, you are incapable of receiving the grace that God has already extended to you. You aren't likely to be delivered by Bible Truth, but I'll share this anyway: "But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." Hebrews 11:6
Yes and no. Yes if that is what you 'believe'. No if you dont believe in God's or anti gods.
And just see greed, greed being masked with lies, lies that people believe. Just like people believe in gods..
I dont know if these are separate beliefs, or a general principle how beliefs work.
I only see that 'the believing' works the same. Regardless if god dies or does not exist.
On this topic Im here as a scientist and I need to be unbiased so for me it is not easy as im not believing, but I honestly need to say that.
And then accept the complicated discussion that follows. As all the biblical explanations generate a bias that I try to avoid.
I do agree with most, if not all morals. But the dogmas i find problematic. The dogmas just push me away from religion.
Im from a katholic background myself. But this does not help my research into beliefs. It actually makes it more complicated.
Im actually confused that Hebrew ideas from Palestine/ Israel go against anything that happens in Israel today.
Yet believers don't seem to be shocked by that. That still is something I can't figure out.
I know many people who are believing and all good people. But somehow it keeps me confused how minds work that run on, how do I even explain this, it's like an operating system. If that makes sense.
Very binary. Duality either this or that. Nothing in-between.
Here is a good video on how believing "actually" works. I pray will you will watch it as well as many of us Christians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=634i3VZIsVQ
Hm the intro suggest something very different
It explains 'what it means to believe in Jesus'
Thats not anywhere close to explaining the psychology of believing.
I''m downloading, I will listen to this when cleaning up my little garden tomorrow. I think that a nice combo with being in nature.
Thanks!
Moebius, forgive me, but about your title "Infinity": I know IF you will take a closer, honest look at Jesus ("I Am The Way, The Truth and The Life. No one comes to The Father but by Me") and ask God for discernment, "You will know the Truth and the Truth will set you free." It is a fearful thing to meet God and stand before His judgement in the same sad condition as the vile, the mockers, the proud, unbelieving and unrecalcitrant wicked. Especially as He tells us He came for the sinners, the ones who needed a doctor ("He is the Grest Physician"); for the poor and needy. We are all in that category, except for 'the elite' who prey on us. 'They' are "appointed to wrath", not the humble. At any rate, if you are a human being "created in God's Image", Christians the world-over are praying for you; that God will remove the scales from your eyes to see Him as He truly is, "The Light of The World", Who bore our sins upon His Body on that cruel Cross, in Mercy and a Love for us we cannot understand. It is the reason He left His Throne and came to Earth; a rescue mission, because He thinks we are worth the price He paid.
Thank for your take on my controversial statement.
Im trying to figure out the biblical technology of mind control. As it appears to be very effective. Also because Freud's analysis of the EGO is exploring the very principles. And those also re-appear in MK-Ultra handbooks in a far more extreme.
I think this also answers Wise Wolf's comment.
I'm not trying to change people's minds, I try to figure out Freud and things like MK-Ultra, and the shit that we see in Epstein world. And how govnerments use these same tactics at the local level.
I need more feedback but it is such a tricky topic.
We all fight for humanity. And believing is one difficult topic.
As you can tell the truth to a layman, tho convince of something. But its also possible to lie just to trick the same person into a farce. or just tell a fantasy.
And somone can tell fiction as a warning. To try to open someones mind to see through a farce.
I wish I knew a better way to research this.
Personally I dont believe anything that cant be proven. Yet I often catch myself going along with unproven theories and then having to rewind to figure out how it caught me.
Interesting, but also exhausting.
I digressed from your reply though I do get your message.
When you say "Biblical technology of mind control", you should understand that the Bible can't be fully understood with the mind, but with the heart.
I Cor 2:14-16 "The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ." ESV
I respect you for wanting to understand without hostility.
If that is how you feel about and believe that on an emotional level you may precieve that as true.
Yet logically and rationally there are no facts..
This is what I research...
And if this works for you that fine. Yet to figure out the way the mind does this is a bit of a journey. Specially because we live in Freuds version, his belief of how he THINKS it works, yet some of those beliefs are factually proven wrong. And there i entered a rabbit hole... Where Jung makes more sense yet still fails to give hard facts. And Reich actually proves things that the status quo refuses to accept as it goes against jung as well.
Jung was more religious then Freud and precisely that appears to conflict with Reichs findings and all of that while Reich was religious as well.
Its a cluster rabbit hole...
But actually dropping controversial questions leads to more answers then anything else. I do get closer to the truth yet large gaps still exist that need to be bridged.
As lies only work if people 'believe' them im convinced thatv need to keep digging in the way the mind believes.
But this is a bit of a challenge as you can see.
I understand completely, even identify with your quest to find answers. They are addressed in God's Word, but I too 'dig in other fields' for specific facts. I listen to "Unbroken" and "Man in America" Survivors' testimonies, along with other channels, such as The Dance of Life (Tudor Alexander) and Tyler Wood (true preacher); have gained more knowledge than I needed to know. I trust God will do exactly as His Word says to these nephilim monsters, offspring of watchers (angels who "left their first estates and came down and took wives of all they chose." Genesis 6) Their offspring rule our earth God created for human beings. The 'elites' greatest financial "industry", child trafficking, is a deep cavern. It leads from "principalities and powers of darkness in heavenly places" all the way to the underworld that satan rules (for "a little season" longer). The survivors have been mind-controlled (MK Ultra) with very specific demonic agendas concerning Christ Jesus. satan, the great INVERTER, as you no doubt know, has done a number on them that Christ alone must bring them out of in His time and way. He has brought them a long way, and will doubtless bring them Home to Himself, each in His time, as He does all of His children, "I have not lost one The Father gave Me." I sense somewhat of a kindred spirit with you; that we will arrive at the same place, albeit at different times. "God never fails." There is no help outside of His. No one but JESUS will arrive to save us. Bible Prophecy WILL BE fulfilled, as it always must, and portends certain things must happen first. I will give one word I suspect you know already from your excavations: Catholicism. (Vatican.) This is 'going down' verbatim to the Book of The Revelation, as everything from the beginning until the End must. We are in the Home stretch, but must "Stay strong in the Lord and the power of His Might." We, His Army, "Overcomes (satan) by the Blood of the Lamb, the Word of our testimonies, and we love not our lives unto the death."
Thank you for your witness to Moe. Though I disagree with you on the "satan's little season deception, you are at least trying to bring him the gospel and truth.
Here is a suggestion for your research. Tonight, before you get in your bed to sleep...bend your knees and prostrate yourself by your bed. Cry out to the God you don't believe in and ask Him...IF YOU ARE REAL and you care about me...REVEAL it to my heart. Humble yourself to do this and really mean it. HE will come to you. Jeremiah 29:13 paraphrased says: And YOU shall seek ME and find ME when you shall search for ME with all your heart, soul, MIND and being. And He says, I WILL be found by you. You are searching for why belief exists in the Christian. It is really quite simple. He told us a child could understand it. You are a grown man. Will you come down to a child's level and grasp what we are trying to witness to you. Your eternal destination depends upon it. Seek the LOVER OF YOUR SOUL Moebius...NOW. It is the most important decision you will ever make and those of us preaching this to you do it out of love for HIM first and you second. May God answer your true call to Him and I pray for your deliverance from any evil that prevents you (your own pride included) from keeping you from HIS ALL encompassing GRACE, MERCY and INCOMPREHENSIBLE LOVE!
Wow Hilda. I had not read your response to Moe but you and I actually told him the same thing. This "person" needs God's supernatural intervention by way of HIS HOLY SPIRIT to be freed from the demonic powers who chain him. Pray for him. If he is truly human (and I don't say that lightly), then there is still hope for him.
With you 100%, OurKing Comes70.