The cover up is evil. I rarely use that word, evil, because I fear the overuse of the word normalizes it. But this blatant lying is doing 3 things. One, obviously it keeps up the pretense that the ICE agents are for law and order. Two, it attempts to smear the name of a man who was trying to help another person. Three, it creates a lack of trust in authority, which as you have pointed out Wise Wolf, just feeds the discourse in society. So now when a well meaning law officer makes a mistake, it creates riots, which then just justifies (in their sick minds) more force.
Is your third point maybe confounding your first and second points? And don’t we need to keep focussed on the reality that the most important consideration for all of us needs to be what can every caring person, both as an individual and in community do to help so that together we can stand in the most powerful way possible against the construction of a militarized American surveillance state, as is clearly the aim and desire of Trump and his billionaire and authoritarian leader friends; in other words the destruction of our democracy and human rights and freedoms in the cause of their sad and empty power, greed, cruelty and control.
I agree with you. Maybe my 3rd point was a bit rushed in its explanation. What I am suggesting is that part of why the cover up is evil, is that it deliberately causes those of us paying attention to now distrust authority. And that makes it more likely that some of us may engage in civil disobedience to express our outrage. What happens then? Those who agree with the administration will applaud as the government cracks down even harder on those of us protesting. Which will just increase the violence. The Wise Wolf has made an interesting case in many of his recent articles that those in charge actually don’t care about the “sides” in the debate. They just want us fighting.
I suggest you stop voting, period. If you voted republican, you voted for this. If you vote democrat, you’re voting for the other half of the tyrannical tag team. Biden opened the borders to justify Trump creating a police/surveillance state. Trump provided the death jabs so Biden could mandate them. There is no political solution to any of what’s going on. Voting only feeds the beast by telling it you support a system so evil and corrupt, it can’t possibly be repaired. It’s time to look for other solutions.
I agree with you; and you're no kook. You simply convey the facts, and far too many people can't face the facts. If they did, they might just, maybe, feel morally bound to do something about it, but they won't follow that instinct (IF it was even taught to them in the first place), and the only way that they can look themselves in the mirror every morning is to pretend they don't 'believe' any of the facts, ignore them, and therefore claim they 'didn't know', and 'can't do anything about it'. Shame on them.
I’ve been advocating for freedom and trying to wake people up since the fake pandemic, which is what woke me up to what the system really is. Both parties were in on it, so I naively thought a lot more people would figure things out. Instead, about 160 million people ran to the polls to vote for the very people who did it to them, half of them in support of the self proclaimed father of the fake vaccines. It’s an extremely severe case of Stockholm Syndrome that appears to be virtually incurable. Thanks for the kind words.
What 'fake' pandemic? COVID 19 was not a fake pandemic; as a scientist, and somebody who teaches immunology at the post-secondary level, this is something that is completely irrefutable. One of my friends died of COVID-19. I have had it twice, sadly, but fortunately for me, mildly both times. There are also no fake vaccines. I followed the scientific publications, and the vaccines were both real, and necessary. You're welcome for my kindness towards you, but the very real mass distrust of science is disturbing to me, as a scientist. I know how to evaluate the literature, and think critically, and recognize truth from fiction in that arena.
The test wasn’t testing for a virus. That’s admitted to in an FDA document presented to them by the CDC to gain approval for the “test”. It said they had no isolate of the virus so they just made something up to test for. The official definition of a covid death is dying of any cause within 28 days of testing positive, using a test not testing for a virus. The numbers were all fake, leading to Trump’s lockdowns and deadly jabs, which he is still bragging about.
It’s too bad more people don’t get it. The relentless fear based propaganda alone was a huge red flag, which is what prompted me to do some research. I smelled a rat from day one.
“The Committee of 300”…Dr. John Coleman told people decades ago that voting is a scam. It’s a false illusion of control. I belong to no political party or organized religion (I love God). I want to be as free as I can be.
My research tells me everything is a lie. Everything we’ve been told about history is complete BS. My policy is simple. If government says anything, assume it’s a lie and do your homework. So far, my policy is 100% accurate.
Those who claim we "have to vote," I ask: WHY does the regime WANT your vote? Why do we see "register now" everywhere, and almost coercion at the DMV, etc., to get us "registered." Do we really believe they want our opinions? Or is this "voting" some sort of occult ritual where we participate in our own subjugation?
I love it when people say, if you don’t vote you can’t complain. We damn sure can. We’re not the ones who put evil people in power to rule over them. The voters are the ones who put evil people in power to rule over them and us. They have it exactly backwards. Somehow they can’t figure out that even after 60 presidential (s)elections, the same thing happens every time. The government gets bigger, more powerful, and more authoritarian. How can they possibly believe the next one will be any different? It’s insane.
What solutions do you propose? I’m with you… we openly admit we’re voting for the lesser of two evils every single cycle. What do we replace the current system with?
That’s the burning question. It’s going to take a great awakening, which is doubtful at this point. Trojan Horse Trump was brought in to get conservatives believing in government again and he’s been wildly successful. Step one is to get large numbers of people willing to tell the government no. Just stop complying with them. The power they have is all surrendered to them by the people. That’s how the few control the many. Maybe general strikes in many areas. Maybe state level nullification if your state government isn’t as corrupt as the federal government. Maybe secession movements, which is being talked about in some states. Jury nullification is a good option. Your vote in a jury is the only one that really matters. Their laws are meaningless if they can’t convict anyone. This behemoth has to be decentralized somehow. It’s far too big and powerful. An armed revolt won’t work. They have weapons we don’t even know about. Whatever the solution is will take at least 50 million people to accomplish. What we do know is, what we’re doing now isn’t working. We all know the definition of insanity and that’s what voting is, and has been for a long time. Start talking to people about it and try to build some numbers. That’s what I do but it’s a hard sell. The two party system has captured too many people and very few of them have figured things out. I’m open to any and all suggestions.
Well, I guess I would be considered an old lady, however I'm not the least bit offended by you using that word. I just wanted to say, I think a lot of the people making comments in favor of public executions of innocent people by Trumps gang of thugs, are probably paid trolls, working for the Trump Administration.
I am now overtly hostile to any MAGA kooks. There are no more excuses. Continued support for this regime means one is aligned with the Devil of the Bible.
Well, the left/right paradigm still continues, even under Donald Trump. In fact, Trump wants this paradigm to continue. He has MAGA minds under his control.
If 6 DC cops jumped a MAGA bro that was carrying on J6 and shot him dead, MAGA would be up in arms.
The game simply continues. I’ve been awake since 08, hoping for humanity to rise above the New World Order.
It won’t happen. I would say less than 5% of voters “get it”.
I now am just gonna stay right with God and make sure my preps are good.
First off let me remind you that Trump gave the illegals the option to self deport. He offered like $1500 cash and a plane ticket if i remember right. No other leader has ever done that. That means that the illegals were given a choice. Its now on them. I do not agree with this post at all. The video shows two older women assaulting the officers with horns. Blasting it in their ears. That is what the new paid protesters have come up with to try to avoid assault charges but it is a red herring. It is assault. By adopting this method they have proven that they are paid agitators. So the responsibility of this guys death is squarley on the backs of these paid agitators as they were assaulting the officers with horns and with out that behavior would not have needed his help. There is always two sides to every story.
I appreciate you engaging with the content, but I need to address the logic here because it's fundamentally broken.
First, the self-deportation offer is irrelevant to whether federal agents are justified in executing an American citizen. Alex Pretti wasn't an illegal immigrant. He was born in Illinois. He was a registered nurse at the VA hospital. The existence of a deportation program has exactly zero bearing on whether it's acceptable for federal agents to beat and shoot a healthcare worker trying to help someone.
Second, you're saying women blowing horns at officers constitutes assault that justifies lethal force against a completely different person who wasn't blowing a horn. Think about what you just argued. Even if we accept your premise that horn-blowing is assault (it's not, it's obnoxious but it's protected First Amendment activity), how does that justify shooting Alex Pretti? He didn't blow a horn. He tried to help a woman who was being pepper sprayed.
The video shows multiple agents surrounding Pretti, beating him while he's on the ground, and then shooting him. That's what we can see with our own eyes.
You're engaging in the exact mental gymnastics I'm talking about. "Paid agitators" started it, therefore the man who tried to help deserved to be executed. That's not logic. That's authoritarian bootlicking dressed up as reason.
Let me be very clear: even if every single person at that protest was a paid professional agitator (they weren't), even if they were all blowing air horns directly into officers' ears (they weren't), even if the situation was chaotic and difficult (it was), none of that justifies federal agents beating a man on the ground and shooting him multiple times.
The "responsibility" for Alex Pretti's death rests with the men who beat him and pulled the trigger. Not with protesters. Not with horns. Not with "agitators." With the agents who killed him.
There are not "two sides" to whether government agents should be allowed to execute citizens in the street and lie about it afterward. There's right and there's wrong. This was wrong.
Are you old enough to remember the LA riots? It was started from a video of Cops beating a black man. Just like this event the media only showed the cops beating Rodney. I was a first year college student in an Ethics class. The TA showed the edited video and asked the class to respond. I was the only one in the class who didnt support the narrative that he was just some black man on his way to work BS. When it was my turn I told the TA i wanted to see all the video. Turns out Rodney was High and was running from the officers going over 100 MPH in residential areas.
Im only sharing this with you because I learned right there not to jump to conclusions. I am not a criminal defense lawyer but I can clearly see that the gun was taken from him before he was shot. However it looks like the officer that took it was the only one in the scrum that new that at the time. I have read that someone yelled gun and that appears to be the reason why he was fired on.
Your the one doing mental gymnastics. Blowing horns in officers or anyones ears is assault. The officers showed restraint by only using pepper spray and pushing them away. They should be arrested and tried. Thats the law. And paid agitators are illegal also. But for your arugment to work, all the officers would have had to pre plan this "murder" and thats not what the video shows.
Why does the fact that he is an American citizen have anything to do with this? So were the women commiting assault. Its irrelevent to the facts. Would you approve if they had murdered an illegal?
The fact that this guy was resisting and not complying is on him. Not the officers. That changes the dynamics of the whole event. I have a Concealed Carry Permit. To that affect I have read books from Lawyers on the does and donts of having a leagal gun on your person. What you dont do is insert yourself into a dangerous situation with law enforcement and then resist. He had choices. His death is on him.
Im am a bit confused by this post. Your post about working with the elites and learning about who really has control of things right now is someting I can agree with. If everyting is a psyop then this whole event fits that description. It looks like actors not trained LEO. But with this post you seem to be supporting the narrative of the paid agitators. You send a lot of mixed signals.
Just saw another post that potentially shows the confiscated gun in the "officers" hand and the slide is back. So if he did fire it accidentally or on purpose then that is the reason the reason for the return fire. This whole thing stinks of a psyop to keep things going for bad reasons.
The officer that removed Pretti’s gun, (while he was blinded from pepper spray, & being attacked by 6 Icemen- while one beat him with the butt of a pistol repeatedly in the head!)
Discharged the gun. You can see it in the video. His hand jerks as the shot fires. Iceman discharges Pretti’s gun as he runs away.
Iceman discharged the gun, knowing damn well that shot at close range would “goose” the other 6 cowardly & untrained Gestapo to fire until dead. They did exactly that.
Pretti was murdered by the Iceman who stole his gun and fired it, releasing a barrage of shots from the Twitchy Testosterone Ridden Maga Incels- Exactly as Planned.
He murdered Pretti- & he never fired one shot into him.
& BTW- Pretti’s back was turned to the Cowardly Icemen when they jumped him.
ICE is Scum & so is Anyone defending their UnLifing.
"Even if we accept your premise that horn-blowing is assault" ...
This from the same people whom said miss-gendering someone (you know the men pretending to be women...) is a form of assault ... ?
"The "responsibility" for Alex Pretti's death rests with the men who beat him and pulled the trigger."
I didn't get killed because I didn't decide to take part in a left wing ruse... meant to keep the billion dollar Mn rip off out of the headlines. His death is on the stupid choice he made to partake ...
"even if every single person at that protest was a paid professional agitator (they weren't)"...
Your are correct, there were also useful idiots in attendance (of which he seemed to be one) lathered up by the paid protestors and agitators ...
According to Center for Migration Studies, Texas has about 2.1 million undocumented immigrants making it the 2nd highest population of immigrant in the country. Florida, 1.2 million. Minnesota has about 95,000. Why don’t we see this activity there. The are RED STATES! Bondi told the gov of Minnesota that it why would turn over their voter registration records, ICE would leave. Tell me again that it’s about immigration? It’s about retribution on states that didn’t vote for your king.
Again, where are the receipts. 64 judges told 47’s lawyers there was no there there. Never even presented evidence because that would’ve been illegal. Just made proclamations. By the way, all those lawyers he used have lost their law licenses. Every single one. And some went to jail.
1) If you know anything about the judicial process, (it's not 'Justice' for a reason...) you would know it's a system run by judges, judges rule on standing and what, if any, evidence can be brought into trial ... all the evidence in the world can't save you if the judge disallows it ... You thinks it's a co-incidence that Obomber filled the courts with left wing activists judges for 8 years ...? Same as with prosecutors, if you're over the age of 35 you remember a time when law and order was followed and obeyed ... it makes for a healthy and safe society ...
2) Many innocent people plead guilty as proving their innocence is either too difficult or too financially destructive...
If you didn't want what's happening now , you should have spoke up when the last President opened the flood gates ...
These events are meant to divide 'we the people' and it certainly is happening. Find clips of Willy C, Hitlary , Obomber and Bribem talking about ILLEGAL immigrants and the stress and strain they place on our society... the only difference is now Orange is in office ... All these events including the P(l)andemic, the 2020 election, J6 and this are meant to divide... and cause a feeling of helplessness, and it's working ...
For the record,being undocumented is a MISDEMEANOR- ya know- traffic violation, jay walking - IT IS NOT some big,bad felony crime. 4% of the people who have “removed” are criminals--- many of whom are here LEGALLY and provide essential services - like growing/harvesting our food,building our homes, building roads,caring for children/elderly,etc We the taxpayer are paying BILLIONS of dollars to be assaulted, executed in cold blood ,and to have our Constitutional rights and freedoms taken away. To say nothing of negative economic downturn (1 example: carrot farmer in Kansas City- right now- in tears- has $900,000+ carrot crop that is going to rot in the ground & he is going to be ruined- bankrupt,sued for not being able to uphold his contract,lose his farm,his livelihood all for this amoral ,inhumane pack of lies and propaganda and ALL of us are losing our rights and freedoms that we've taken for granted all so the morbidly rich can have it all !!! This is class warfare - not a legitimate issue- hope you will consider these words before you learn the hard way that you're being used to destroy your own country.
Laken Riley would argue with you if she could. And carrots are usually harvested with machines. Now the packing sheds is a different story. And they would not be harvested till spring. We used to have a legal means for Mexicans to come here and work. They would apply and come here for the summer and pick apples and cherries. Then they would go back to mexico and live like kings. Somewhere along the lines the state governments decided to give them welfare and free health care and free education. Now the new generation is not working at farms and my tax dollars are supporting them at wages that I cant even get with a college degree.
You can have free immigration or a well fare state. Not both...
( Oh yea Tren de Aragua is not here to pick the fruit you by at Whole Foods)
I visited Mexico once. Looked out the window at the back of a hotel by the dumpsters for a week. I was able to walk around a few blocks a couple of times. There were lots of things that DID NOT impress me about the culture but the one thing that did was a result of a NO WELFARE state. Everyone was doing somthing. From recycling cardboard to selling flowers in the street. No work No eat. By the way Lisa where do you live? From your comment I can thell you have never been involved in Agriculture and dont live where there is a large population of your beloved Ilegals..
That is incorrect. You’re referring to the H-2B visas. “For Fiscal Year (FY) 2026, the DHS and DOL announced they will make 35,000 supplemental H-2B nonagricultural worker visas available, supplementing the congressionally mandated 66,000. This release represents a 50% reduction from previous years and is targeted at industries like seafood, hospitality, and forestry”. The landscape company I work for is nationwide and they bring in 3000 workers a season.
The bull about free shit is an absolute lie. It is not even legal. Not one aspect of it. NOR SHOULD IT BE. Bring the receipts when you throw shit out like that. Repeating propaganda does not work with the Non-MAGA’s. We deal in provable facts and truths.
These MAGA cultists are just as delusional as the XY chromosome trannies who insist they are "women."
We both know that illegals DO NOT get "welfare" excepting emergency Medicaid. And none of these "they're stealing from us" types give an iota of a damn about the multiple TRILLIONS stolen from Americans by the Pentagram. $2.5 TRILLION "missing" from the Pentagram budget, announced one day before the big day, 9/10/2001, by Scumsfeld, and more trillions admitted later. These people are drones, the infamous NPCs (non-playable characters), just spewing their programming from Talmudvision and other "free" (sic) mass corporate media. Neither Truth nor Justice concern them.
You use the Fox "News" talking point of Laken Riley, "also a nurse." I've seen plenty of regime bootlickers using this right now, trying to detract from the abomination of a State-sponsored terrorist murder of an ICU nurse.
My question is very straight forward: did Ashli Babbitt deserve to be killed? You know, she was "breaking the law," and "resisting law enforcement." The same answer must be given for both Babbitt and Pretti, or one is a shameless hypocrite.
I do not support whole foods/ amazon- they are part of the rich people shitting on us problem. Tren de araqua is not nearly the problem in the u.s as the lies have you believe- far,far less than the domestic terrorists running our streets ( see Jenn Budd for REAL info about dhs/cbp- speaking of rape.) 87 % of violent crime in the US is committed by cis white males-- the crime rate of immigrants is so small its not worth my brain space.(for the record- through due process- I absolutely want violent criminals removed- do not color me with your lies and propaganda- you know nothing about me )!Also,your "welfare for immigrants" is just more lies and propaganda spewed by real criminals to distract you from the billions they are stealing from us. The Republicans rejected immigration reform bill in 2024-they got everything they asked for- but their pedophile in chief needed something to run on- so they refused it . My comment on the carrots came directly from the farmer & both my parents were raised on dairy farms and I live in a highly agricultural area--- but,it is not my livelihood--- I choose to believe the carrot farmer in Kansas City,the potato farmer in Alabama, and the soybean farmers who lost their asses in 2018 and 2025.
The Cocaine Importation Agency (CIA) despises these "narco terrorists" (sic - LOL) because the latter are COMPETITION.
It's truly about time that Americans wise up and realize we haven't had an AMERICAN government since anti-Christ "Israel" murdered President Kennedy. These "Presidents" since are all actors, figure heads, playing a script.
The "illegals are stealing welfare from us" is actually incredibly amusing, despite the viciousness of such lies leading to deadly violence. First off, the personal income taxes paid every April DO NOT FUND welfare...they go, entirely, to the usury on the national debt to banksters. Secondly, the biggest "welfare fraud" bar none is via the Pentagram and its associated network of terrorist organizations, into their TRILLIONS in black budgets. Scumsfeld "disclosed" the "missing" (sic) $2.5 TRILLION on 9/10/2001, conveniently buried in the news by what he knew was coming the next morning.
So you want low wage slaves to pick carrots ... how very benevolent of you ...... you must really enjoy cheap carrots .... I married an immigrant, what have you done ...?
Just because I defend immigrants from some fool calling them illegals & insinuating they're all criminals DOES NOT mean I believe they should be taken advantage of !!!! QUITE THE CONTRARY - this country is a DISGRACE in its treatment of “others”and is the APPALLING cause of the desperate conditions from which most are fleeing. Don't even get me started on the despicable dereliction of duty from lawmakers who use this as political theater rather than actually helping people who only want and DESERVE better. For a really honest conversation on immigration I encourage all to listen to ON POINT interview from late jan/ early Feb 2024--- where Texas lawmakers across the aisle had come up with a ?bill? & that evil pos abbot vetoed it. I WOULD SOONER OPEN MY HOME TO IMMIGRANTS AND HELP THEM than live anywhere near these priveleged,arrogant,ignorant, hateful,judgmental,racist a$$holes !!!!!!!! A vision of mine is to buy a piece of land and offer opportunities to people fleeing - build their homes,grow their food,& start whatever business they wish.,especially since this nation's treatment of people suffering is SO FUCKING APPALLING !!!!! I'm not sure where you get the idea that I'm all for slave labor for cheap carrots- I support ?” conscientious”? farming/land stewardship and HUMANE working conditions for ALL -always have and always will.mostly,I try to grow my own because I want NO part of the abusive,destructive,disrespectful nature of this countries “ big biz” anything and everything. One more thing- I'm actually glad for your response,for I have a “hot off the press” fact- courtesy of THE FUCKING NEWS- Jonathan Larsen- substack- from Garret Graff-”CBP commit crimes at an equal or even HIGHER rate per capital than the population of undocumented immigrants…” and 5 !!!!! times higher than other federal law enforcement agencies. I encourage all to properly inform themselves on cbp/ice by reading Jenn Budd, Arturo Dominguez- here on substack. ABOLISH/PROSECUTE DHS/ICE/CBP and TAX THE RICH OUT OF EXISTENCE--- they are PATHOLOGICAL PARASITES !!! One more thing -- anybody who thinks the Laken Riley Act is a good thing is a fool - it gives law enforcement more power to take away all our rights. Those who would trade (false) security for their rights and freedoms deserve none of these---(paraphrasing Ben Franklin,I believe). I hope this makes clear where I stand and I wish you a good day!
Whiney potty mouth ... again... I married an immigrant, (oh my bad, a LEGAL immigrant, she didn't want to break any existing immigration laws) what have you done ...? Other than ignore reality and play word salad with words like 'undocumented' and bi-atch about it .........? If they came here during the border crisis of 2021- 2024 (you know the one where existing immigration laws were purposely overlooked ...) and were supposed to show for a hearing, and didn't... THEY BROKE THE LAW... and that makes them ILLEGAL immigrants!
No one is illegal especially on stolen land and at this point you don't even make any sense- honestly,your responses seem to ignore what I'm saying and treat me like I'm against what I can't even figure out. Seriously---my response is not word salad,it is information ,sources and poor boy can't handle big bad words give me a break- bot ? Troll ? Russian ? Good for you- you're a big,bad hero you married an immigrant and solved what God only knows. I'm serious- YOU MAKE NO SENSE attacking someone who stands up for people who are being kidnapped,assaulted,murdered and you go on about ???? NOTHING USEFUL to the nightmare unfolding.
As an old lady who doesn’t wear pearls, I fucking resent the implication. Speaking about pitting people against each other - do you think all of us old ladies wear pearls? I am out demonstrating and volunteering to help get our Country back on what should be the right track. We are more physically vulnerable and don’t always have the stamina to keep up, but I have been through the Civil Rights Movement, the Vietnam War Movement, getting Nixon to move out of the White House and RESIGN!, the Save the Old Growth Redwoods Movement - in all of which, the people won. I am here in this movement to bring in the younger generation because, quite frankly, our generation is getting tired. There are a LOT of us grey hairs out there because 1/3 of registered voters walked away and did not vote for anyone for president. That is because of their disillusionment with both major parties taking big money from the wealthy and corporations. We want to show them that we know Resistance and Demonstration works - because we have seen it - but it is not part of their experience and they don’t know that they can make a difference. We want to hand-off this responsibility because we are ready for them to establish a government they can live with.
Then you have the possibility it was staged. In some false flags sometimes people die, sometimes people don't die and sometimes it's made to look like someone died. The agendas vary but the results always move the joo world order agenda.
Evetime an event like this happens, I approach it with a healthy degree of skepticism. A recent breathtaking example was Donald's alleged assassination attempt. Who can forget the fist in the air with a bloodied ear resulting in an iconic photo shot? "Fake" oops, excuse me, "Fight" yelled Donald!
More people should be asking if it was staged. Along w the gal Rene Good. They could be in Witsec. The motive to stage it is so ThEY get their civil war. Flynn has been trying for so many years!
By no means am I condoning what happened. But I have questions.
Serious questions.
What would compel a (seemingly) gentle looking individual, a VA Nurse with a college degree, to strap on a gun, bundle up against bitter cold, and head into a hot zone.
Second question (given what we are learning about the Signal chats targeting).
How would this individual know exactly where to go to make sure he wasn’t just wasting his time diving around looking for action.
Third question.
What would compel him to decide it was a good idea to physically insert himself into an already chaotic situation?
How and why does he go from filming from across the street, to putting himself in harms way, smack dab in the middle of a half dozen armed LEOs?
And no, the narrative that he was trying to help someone who had been pepper sprayed because ‘he was a nurse’ is not a satisfactory or realistic explanation.
As more facts come out (72 hour rule applies) we will hopefully be able to put more context around what happened.
But, for me, there are two things that stand out.
1. Somehow he knew exactly where to go in order to locate a hot zone. How did that happen and where did that info come from.
2. He would be alive if he had (1) stayed home or (2) not made the fateful decision to insert himself into the middle of a chaotic situation.
Was it an unnecessary death? Absolutely.
Was it murder, as many are claiming? IDK, that would be for a jury to determine. Grainy video and Twitter trolls don’t get to make that decision.
But overlooking the fact that he chose to actively put himself into a situation that was not his to resolve, simply means you’ve lost all objectivity in your analysis.
The thing is, Minneapolis (and Minnesota in general) has been a hotbed of radical Marxist/Communist/Socialist activism for over a hundred years.
It flies under the radar because it’s, well, Minnesota. The GOP hasn’t carried the state since 1972. And in the modern era, only 1952 and 1956 bucked that trend.
Minnesota’s ‘nice’ doesn’t mean what most people might think.
The Farmer-Labor Party of the early 1900s was a hotbed of Communist infiltration and that continued right up to their merger with the Democrats in 1944. The Communist elements didn’t get purged after the merger.
The massive fraud recently exposed has been occurring for decades. It’s been documented and reported in by alt media since the early 2000s. And in 2015 there was extensive reporting by bloggers about the Somali fraud and the state and local govt complicity in that regard.
I cannot find the source article but I do recall that one of the cursory investigations back in the 2015-2918 timeframe estimated that as much as 50% of the economic activity in Minneapolis was at least indirectly tied to fraudulent use of taxpayer money.
And as you might expect, the courts at every level are totally compromised and corrupt. As is the state and local AGs. Hence, trying to pursue legal remedies for any of it is a fools errand.
Thanks. Yeah I don’t hold out much hope. People want to focus on the ‘incidents’ and the SM driven narrative. And no matter where one comes out on the specific issues, 98% will ignore the greater reality of why it’s Minnesota.
It’s not that difficult to understand with a couple hours of historical research. Alas, the likelihood of that occuring isn’t zero. But its close.
Why do you think that history is altered, manipulated and distorted??? If we don’t understand history, then we will keep repeating the same mistakes. There love when people are in a state of panic and fear. It feeds the machine.
The agent in jeans and a gray windbreaker seems to play a critical role in the murder, also to be in plainclothes. How can it be nobody has pointed out this agent was most likely there to act as a provocateur, and that explains how he was right there, Johnny-on-the-spot? PREMEDITATED MURDER.
You fell right into the same old trap.It’s always they planted a gun so it had to be staged.There’s slow motion videos of this man having a gun at this protest that’s unacceptable under any pretense.We the American people have been ripped off to the tune of billions of dollars and counting by these ungrateful foreigners who abuse our health care system and food stamp program along with others.I remember the riots real well in Detroit in 1967.The residents of Detroit made up of hard working blue color teamsters and auto workers not the police got together and put the riot and agitators down.You could even say those rioters had a just cause but the motley crew in Minneapolis don’t.They would love to export there brand of collective communism everywhere if left unchecked.ICE for the most part has done a good job not hurting anyone considering all these malcontents have put them through.You should mention that foreigners from other countries who went through the process of becoming a legal citizen are more upset than anyone.These illegal foreigners have to go and if they or one of there supporters who block highways that keep ambulances from getting “American” patients to the hospital and try and run over law enforcement time and time again that’s not reported and of course the media then makes a huge issue when someone who hates our way of life that has a gun or runs someone over gets killed.Is there any real objective journalism left ? I bet you wouldn’t take one for the team if a car came straight at you. I’m older than most people on here and this is how all color revolutions start that never ends well for the native population.If we don’t deal with this issue now we’re all going to be part of a collective communist dictator led religion and we will end up in body bags.We Americans opened up our country to those who are oppressed that are now the oppressors.Most cultures never change and these communists who want to make my children and grandchildren slaves have to be stopped by any means necessary as our politicians have been bought and paid for by the same foreign influences.
You think this is about communists? You've completely misidentified the threat. The people taking over this country aren't communists. They're Freemasonic fascists, and Trump is one of them. ICE is his personal goon squad operating exactly like Hitler's Brownshirts did in Weimar Germany. If you knew anything about history beyond Fox News soundbites, you'd recognize the playbook.
Let me explain how Hegelian dialectics work since you clearly don't understand what's actually happening. Problem, reaction, solution. Create or amplify a crisis (illegal immigration), generate public outrage (your entire comment), implement the "solution" that expands government power (federal agents operating with impunity in American cities executing citizens).
You want to protect your grandkids? Then maybe stop cheering for the infrastructure being built to enslave them. Elon Musk's grandfather, Joshua Haldeman, was a card-carrying Nazi who ran Technocracy Inc. in Canada in the 1940s. He envisioned something called the United Technate of America - a techno-fascist state run by engineers and corporations where citizens would be reduced to economic units. You know what was on that map? Greenland and Venezuela. The exact two places Trump is obsessed with right now. That's not a coincidence.
You're worried about illegal immigrants making $4 an hour cleaning toilets while armed federal agents with six weeks of training beat an American citizen on the ground and execute him gangland style. That nurse they killed had a college degree, no criminal record, and spent his career caring for veterans. But sure, he's the threat to your grandkids, not the government agents who murdered him in broad daylight and lied about it.
"ICE has done a good job not hurting anyone"? They've killed three people in Minneapolis in three weeks. Renee Good. Julio Cesar Sosa-Celia. Alex Pretti. All shot by federal agents. That's not "doing a good job." That's state-sponsored violence.
You mention Detroit 1967 like it's relevant. Those were riots over systemic racism and police brutality. What you're seeing in Minneapolis now isn't a "color revolution" - it's Americans protesting their own government executing citizens without trial. But you can't see that because you've been programmed to blame brown people for everything while the actual fascists consolidate power.
I'm not a Democrat. I'm not a communist. I'm just not a moron cheering for tyranny because I've been convinced the real enemy is some guy picking strawberries instead of the billionaires building a surveillance state with your tax dollars.
You want to stop your grandkids from becoming slaves? Stop supporting the people putting the chains on them. This isn't communism. This is techno-fascism, and you're applauding it because they told you to fear the wrong enemy.
Very well said. At this point any voter who believes what is happening is ok is in support of fascism. They just fight any use of that word as just another inflammatory insult kinda like they have been conditioned anything left of them politically is socialism in their eyes.
Words have meaning and the way they are constructed in sentences conveys everything intent intelligence and emotions.I have read the comments on here and then read them again.I appreciate them all.Getting my history from
Fox News is hilarious as I can assure you I most likely know more about history than most people.As far as wanting to get rid of all “brown” people I guess I’ll deport myself as I’m
Cherokee and I’ll take ICE Mr AK and Smith & Wesson along with Mr RPG and good old Mr Claymore with me and help our Christian brothers and sisters in Nigeria who are getting slaughtered by the thousands.I appreciate this platform and will be supporting your work in March.This will most likely be my last comment and I think we all can agree that out of 330+ million people we can do a lot better than the 2 choices we always get shoved down our through.Well I have to finish reading a literally classic called “See Spot Run” and I wish Gods best for everyone. John
You: "There’s slow motion videos of this man having a gun at this protest that’s unacceptable under any pretense."
The Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms. You love the regime more than freedom.
You: "We the American people have been ripped off to the tune of billions of dollars and counting by these ungrateful foreigners who abuse our health care system and food stamp program along with others."
LOL
Fox "News" talking points. You don't give a damn about the TRILLIONS that the Pentagram admits are "missing." Donald H. Scumsfeld admitted he couldn't account for $2.3 TRILLION in "taxpayer's money" on 9/10/2001 (yes, the day before). More trillions are known to be "missing" since.
And lets talk about the banking tribe's endless rip-off of Americans and their wealth via interest and usury and the "Federal" Reserve, if you ACTUALLY care about being robbed. This system of systematic larceny is protected by "law enforcement," of course.
Minnesota is an open carry state. He had just as much right as you or I would, in the state of Minnesota, to carry a gun to a protest, or a restaurant or a movie theatre. The fact that people are fighting to defend 6 cowards, who had him on his hands and knees, took his gun from the holster, because that’s where IT WAS, and assassinated him in the back of his head and then they opened fire on the man as he laid on his back, speaks volumes as to the void of humaniy that exists within the MAGA community, regardless of anything else. Yet, when Kyle Rittenhouse walked down the center of a street, both brandishing an AR15 and shot 2 people who mistook him for a bad man, he was lauded as an American hero and was invited as the guest of honor at a Michigan GOP dinner event. Can’t have it both ways.
As a retired ICU and Correctional RN, my heart Grieves for this young man. Like him, I legally carry a firearm. Like him, I have been at protests such as this to both support tge cause and render first aid if necessary. Like the Wise Wolf I generally vote republican and I am disgusted by the administration's response to these two killings in Minneapolis. My hope and prayer is these tragedies along with the terrorizing of that 5 year old child will turn public opinion away from this senseless mass deportation. We need to create a plausible pathway to citizenship for those that are here for a better life and contribute to societies greater good. I have no issue deporting people who have committed violent crimes. I have a big issue with encouraging people to come here to work, then making villains of them and terrorize them.
"Law enforcement" is NOT more "valuable" than ordinary folks.
Anyone who claims we must just unquestioningly "comply" with "law enforcement" is the modern successor to NSDAP members, CPSU members, and Redcoats & loyalists.
I agree this appears to be outright murder, unfortunately we will never know the truth. Don't
understand why customs, border police and ICE agents aren't required to wear cameras like most big police departments do. Of course, those can be doctored as well.
The photo of a handgun and magazine the perpetrators put out is now represented as an example, not Pretti's actual weapon. I have to wonder, when did CBP acquire the extra magazine?
Another murder by ICE - while a “ICE” winter storm sweeps the nation. From a spiritual perspective, a lot is happening: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/ice-and-ice-the-death-of-good-in
Technically, this wasn't ICE, but Heinrich Bovino's Border Patrol this time.
The cover up is evil. I rarely use that word, evil, because I fear the overuse of the word normalizes it. But this blatant lying is doing 3 things. One, obviously it keeps up the pretense that the ICE agents are for law and order. Two, it attempts to smear the name of a man who was trying to help another person. Three, it creates a lack of trust in authority, which as you have pointed out Wise Wolf, just feeds the discourse in society. So now when a well meaning law officer makes a mistake, it creates riots, which then just justifies (in their sick minds) more force.
Great points. People are being played against each other. And neither side wants nor desires to see it.
Is your third point maybe confounding your first and second points? And don’t we need to keep focussed on the reality that the most important consideration for all of us needs to be what can every caring person, both as an individual and in community do to help so that together we can stand in the most powerful way possible against the construction of a militarized American surveillance state, as is clearly the aim and desire of Trump and his billionaire and authoritarian leader friends; in other words the destruction of our democracy and human rights and freedoms in the cause of their sad and empty power, greed, cruelty and control.
I agree with you. Maybe my 3rd point was a bit rushed in its explanation. What I am suggesting is that part of why the cover up is evil, is that it deliberately causes those of us paying attention to now distrust authority. And that makes it more likely that some of us may engage in civil disobedience to express our outrage. What happens then? Those who agree with the administration will applaud as the government cracks down even harder on those of us protesting. Which will just increase the violence. The Wise Wolf has made an interesting case in many of his recent articles that those in charge actually don’t care about the “sides” in the debate. They just want us fighting.
I suggest you stop voting, period. If you voted republican, you voted for this. If you vote democrat, you’re voting for the other half of the tyrannical tag team. Biden opened the borders to justify Trump creating a police/surveillance state. Trump provided the death jabs so Biden could mandate them. There is no political solution to any of what’s going on. Voting only feeds the beast by telling it you support a system so evil and corrupt, it can’t possibly be repaired. It’s time to look for other solutions.
Yeah, that is exactly what happened. Hegelian dialectic play for authoritarianism.
Every single time, and people just keep falling for it. When I point it out to people, I get called a kook. It’s getting very frustrating.
I agree with you; and you're no kook. You simply convey the facts, and far too many people can't face the facts. If they did, they might just, maybe, feel morally bound to do something about it, but they won't follow that instinct (IF it was even taught to them in the first place), and the only way that they can look themselves in the mirror every morning is to pretend they don't 'believe' any of the facts, ignore them, and therefore claim they 'didn't know', and 'can't do anything about it'. Shame on them.
I’ve been advocating for freedom and trying to wake people up since the fake pandemic, which is what woke me up to what the system really is. Both parties were in on it, so I naively thought a lot more people would figure things out. Instead, about 160 million people ran to the polls to vote for the very people who did it to them, half of them in support of the self proclaimed father of the fake vaccines. It’s an extremely severe case of Stockholm Syndrome that appears to be virtually incurable. Thanks for the kind words.
What 'fake' pandemic? COVID 19 was not a fake pandemic; as a scientist, and somebody who teaches immunology at the post-secondary level, this is something that is completely irrefutable. One of my friends died of COVID-19. I have had it twice, sadly, but fortunately for me, mildly both times. There are also no fake vaccines. I followed the scientific publications, and the vaccines were both real, and necessary. You're welcome for my kindness towards you, but the very real mass distrust of science is disturbing to me, as a scientist. I know how to evaluate the literature, and think critically, and recognize truth from fiction in that arena.
You need to say "as a scientist" one more time and then we'll all believe you.
The test wasn’t testing for a virus. That’s admitted to in an FDA document presented to them by the CDC to gain approval for the “test”. It said they had no isolate of the virus so they just made something up to test for. The official definition of a covid death is dying of any cause within 28 days of testing positive, using a test not testing for a virus. The numbers were all fake, leading to Trump’s lockdowns and deadly jabs, which he is still bragging about.
You get it!
It’s too bad more people don’t get it. The relentless fear based propaganda alone was a huge red flag, which is what prompted me to do some research. I smelled a rat from day one.
“The Committee of 300”…Dr. John Coleman told people decades ago that voting is a scam. It’s a false illusion of control. I belong to no political party or organized religion (I love God). I want to be as free as I can be.
My research tells me everything is a lie. Everything we’ve been told about history is complete BS. My policy is simple. If government says anything, assume it’s a lie and do your homework. So far, my policy is 100% accurate.
That’s a BIG 10-4!!!!💯🎯
Great. I always enjoy finding like minded people. There aren’t many of us.
Voting is consent. If you vote, no matter who for, you CONSENT to what our rulers do.
DE-register yourself as I did years ago.
Exactly. I don’t vote. I left the cult of statism long ago. I’m not interested in giving my power away to psychopaths.
Those who claim we "have to vote," I ask: WHY does the regime WANT your vote? Why do we see "register now" everywhere, and almost coercion at the DMV, etc., to get us "registered." Do we really believe they want our opinions? Or is this "voting" some sort of occult ritual where we participate in our own subjugation?
I love it when people say, if you don’t vote you can’t complain. We damn sure can. We’re not the ones who put evil people in power to rule over them. The voters are the ones who put evil people in power to rule over them and us. They have it exactly backwards. Somehow they can’t figure out that even after 60 presidential (s)elections, the same thing happens every time. The government gets bigger, more powerful, and more authoritarian. How can they possibly believe the next one will be any different? It’s insane.
Hear, hear!
I tell them, you had your say, lost "fair & square," and now need to STFU. LOL
They lose no matter what. The government wins every election. I’m guessing you’re an anarchist/voluntaryist. Am I right?
What solutions do you propose? I’m with you… we openly admit we’re voting for the lesser of two evils every single cycle. What do we replace the current system with?
We need real leaders, not liars, who accept and embrace reality as it is. The system is not the issue, per se, but those who run the system.
We also need to understand that "acceptable" tactics likely won't be the successful tactics.
That’s the burning question. It’s going to take a great awakening, which is doubtful at this point. Trojan Horse Trump was brought in to get conservatives believing in government again and he’s been wildly successful. Step one is to get large numbers of people willing to tell the government no. Just stop complying with them. The power they have is all surrendered to them by the people. That’s how the few control the many. Maybe general strikes in many areas. Maybe state level nullification if your state government isn’t as corrupt as the federal government. Maybe secession movements, which is being talked about in some states. Jury nullification is a good option. Your vote in a jury is the only one that really matters. Their laws are meaningless if they can’t convict anyone. This behemoth has to be decentralized somehow. It’s far too big and powerful. An armed revolt won’t work. They have weapons we don’t even know about. Whatever the solution is will take at least 50 million people to accomplish. What we do know is, what we’re doing now isn’t working. We all know the definition of insanity and that’s what voting is, and has been for a long time. Start talking to people about it and try to build some numbers. That’s what I do but it’s a hard sell. The two party system has captured too many people and very few of them have figured things out. I’m open to any and all suggestions.
Well, I guess I would be considered an old lady, however I'm not the least bit offended by you using that word. I just wanted to say, I think a lot of the people making comments in favor of public executions of innocent people by Trumps gang of thugs, are probably paid trolls, working for the Trump Administration.
I agree 100%. Though I also agree that the administration (and maybe a large swathe of the country) is morally bankrupt.
Absolutely the entire Trump Administration are morally bankrupt. And so is anyone who still defends or morally supports his actions.
I am now overtly hostile to any MAGA kooks. There are no more excuses. Continued support for this regime means one is aligned with the Devil of the Bible.
Well, the left/right paradigm still continues, even under Donald Trump. In fact, Trump wants this paradigm to continue. He has MAGA minds under his control.
If 6 DC cops jumped a MAGA bro that was carrying on J6 and shot him dead, MAGA would be up in arms.
The game simply continues. I’ve been awake since 08, hoping for humanity to rise above the New World Order.
It won’t happen. I would say less than 5% of voters “get it”.
I now am just gonna stay right with God and make sure my preps are good.
They don't get it if their still voting!
I know Vickie……nothing changes but the players in the game
First off let me remind you that Trump gave the illegals the option to self deport. He offered like $1500 cash and a plane ticket if i remember right. No other leader has ever done that. That means that the illegals were given a choice. Its now on them. I do not agree with this post at all. The video shows two older women assaulting the officers with horns. Blasting it in their ears. That is what the new paid protesters have come up with to try to avoid assault charges but it is a red herring. It is assault. By adopting this method they have proven that they are paid agitators. So the responsibility of this guys death is squarley on the backs of these paid agitators as they were assaulting the officers with horns and with out that behavior would not have needed his help. There is always two sides to every story.
I appreciate you engaging with the content, but I need to address the logic here because it's fundamentally broken.
First, the self-deportation offer is irrelevant to whether federal agents are justified in executing an American citizen. Alex Pretti wasn't an illegal immigrant. He was born in Illinois. He was a registered nurse at the VA hospital. The existence of a deportation program has exactly zero bearing on whether it's acceptable for federal agents to beat and shoot a healthcare worker trying to help someone.
Second, you're saying women blowing horns at officers constitutes assault that justifies lethal force against a completely different person who wasn't blowing a horn. Think about what you just argued. Even if we accept your premise that horn-blowing is assault (it's not, it's obnoxious but it's protected First Amendment activity), how does that justify shooting Alex Pretti? He didn't blow a horn. He tried to help a woman who was being pepper sprayed.
The video shows multiple agents surrounding Pretti, beating him while he's on the ground, and then shooting him. That's what we can see with our own eyes.
You're engaging in the exact mental gymnastics I'm talking about. "Paid agitators" started it, therefore the man who tried to help deserved to be executed. That's not logic. That's authoritarian bootlicking dressed up as reason.
Let me be very clear: even if every single person at that protest was a paid professional agitator (they weren't), even if they were all blowing air horns directly into officers' ears (they weren't), even if the situation was chaotic and difficult (it was), none of that justifies federal agents beating a man on the ground and shooting him multiple times.
The "responsibility" for Alex Pretti's death rests with the men who beat him and pulled the trigger. Not with protesters. Not with horns. Not with "agitators." With the agents who killed him.
There are not "two sides" to whether government agents should be allowed to execute citizens in the street and lie about it afterward. There's right and there's wrong. This was wrong.
Are you old enough to remember the LA riots? It was started from a video of Cops beating a black man. Just like this event the media only showed the cops beating Rodney. I was a first year college student in an Ethics class. The TA showed the edited video and asked the class to respond. I was the only one in the class who didnt support the narrative that he was just some black man on his way to work BS. When it was my turn I told the TA i wanted to see all the video. Turns out Rodney was High and was running from the officers going over 100 MPH in residential areas.
Im only sharing this with you because I learned right there not to jump to conclusions. I am not a criminal defense lawyer but I can clearly see that the gun was taken from him before he was shot. However it looks like the officer that took it was the only one in the scrum that new that at the time. I have read that someone yelled gun and that appears to be the reason why he was fired on.
Your the one doing mental gymnastics. Blowing horns in officers or anyones ears is assault. The officers showed restraint by only using pepper spray and pushing them away. They should be arrested and tried. Thats the law. And paid agitators are illegal also. But for your arugment to work, all the officers would have had to pre plan this "murder" and thats not what the video shows.
Why does the fact that he is an American citizen have anything to do with this? So were the women commiting assault. Its irrelevent to the facts. Would you approve if they had murdered an illegal?
The fact that this guy was resisting and not complying is on him. Not the officers. That changes the dynamics of the whole event. I have a Concealed Carry Permit. To that affect I have read books from Lawyers on the does and donts of having a leagal gun on your person. What you dont do is insert yourself into a dangerous situation with law enforcement and then resist. He had choices. His death is on him.
Im am a bit confused by this post. Your post about working with the elites and learning about who really has control of things right now is someting I can agree with. If everyting is a psyop then this whole event fits that description. It looks like actors not trained LEO. But with this post you seem to be supporting the narrative of the paid agitators. You send a lot of mixed signals.
Just saw another post that potentially shows the confiscated gun in the "officers" hand and the slide is back. So if he did fire it accidentally or on purpose then that is the reason the reason for the return fire. This whole thing stinks of a psyop to keep things going for bad reasons.
Any officer with half a brain, when picking up a gun, would slide the slide back to remove the shell that was chambered ...
The officer that removed Pretti’s gun, (while he was blinded from pepper spray, & being attacked by 6 Icemen- while one beat him with the butt of a pistol repeatedly in the head!)
Discharged the gun. You can see it in the video. His hand jerks as the shot fires. Iceman discharges Pretti’s gun as he runs away.
Iceman discharged the gun, knowing damn well that shot at close range would “goose” the other 6 cowardly & untrained Gestapo to fire until dead. They did exactly that.
Pretti was murdered by the Iceman who stole his gun and fired it, releasing a barrage of shots from the Twitchy Testosterone Ridden Maga Incels- Exactly as Planned.
He murdered Pretti- & he never fired one shot into him.
& BTW- Pretti’s back was turned to the Cowardly Icemen when they jumped him.
ICE is Scum & so is Anyone defending their UnLifing.
Robert LaVoy Finicum
I would like to discuss things with you absent this forum that is open to paid agitators.
"Even if we accept your premise that horn-blowing is assault" ...
This from the same people whom said miss-gendering someone (you know the men pretending to be women...) is a form of assault ... ?
"The "responsibility" for Alex Pretti's death rests with the men who beat him and pulled the trigger."
I didn't get killed because I didn't decide to take part in a left wing ruse... meant to keep the billion dollar Mn rip off out of the headlines. His death is on the stupid choice he made to partake ...
"even if every single person at that protest was a paid professional agitator (they weren't)"...
Your are correct, there were also useful idiots in attendance (of which he seemed to be one) lathered up by the paid protestors and agitators ...
Absolutely.
According to Center for Migration Studies, Texas has about 2.1 million undocumented immigrants making it the 2nd highest population of immigrant in the country. Florida, 1.2 million. Minnesota has about 95,000. Why don’t we see this activity there. The are RED STATES! Bondi told the gov of Minnesota that it why would turn over their voter registration records, ICE would leave. Tell me again that it’s about immigration? It’s about retribution on states that didn’t vote for your king.
Or the ones that stole an election .........?
Again, where are the receipts. 64 judges told 47’s lawyers there was no there there. Never even presented evidence because that would’ve been illegal. Just made proclamations. By the way, all those lawyers he used have lost their law licenses. Every single one. And some went to jail.
1) If you know anything about the judicial process, (it's not 'Justice' for a reason...) you would know it's a system run by judges, judges rule on standing and what, if any, evidence can be brought into trial ... all the evidence in the world can't save you if the judge disallows it ... You thinks it's a co-incidence that Obomber filled the courts with left wing activists judges for 8 years ...? Same as with prosecutors, if you're over the age of 35 you remember a time when law and order was followed and obeyed ... it makes for a healthy and safe society ...
2) Many innocent people plead guilty as proving their innocence is either too difficult or too financially destructive...
If you didn't want what's happening now , you should have spoke up when the last President opened the flood gates ...
These events are meant to divide 'we the people' and it certainly is happening. Find clips of Willy C, Hitlary , Obomber and Bribem talking about ILLEGAL immigrants and the stress and strain they place on our society... the only difference is now Orange is in office ... All these events including the P(l)andemic, the 2020 election, J6 and this are meant to divide... and cause a feeling of helplessness, and it's working ...
https://www.newsweek.com/full-list-donald-trump-lawyers-who-pleaded-guilty-crimes-1837720
For the record,being undocumented is a MISDEMEANOR- ya know- traffic violation, jay walking - IT IS NOT some big,bad felony crime. 4% of the people who have “removed” are criminals--- many of whom are here LEGALLY and provide essential services - like growing/harvesting our food,building our homes, building roads,caring for children/elderly,etc We the taxpayer are paying BILLIONS of dollars to be assaulted, executed in cold blood ,and to have our Constitutional rights and freedoms taken away. To say nothing of negative economic downturn (1 example: carrot farmer in Kansas City- right now- in tears- has $900,000+ carrot crop that is going to rot in the ground & he is going to be ruined- bankrupt,sued for not being able to uphold his contract,lose his farm,his livelihood all for this amoral ,inhumane pack of lies and propaganda and ALL of us are losing our rights and freedoms that we've taken for granted all so the morbidly rich can have it all !!! This is class warfare - not a legitimate issue- hope you will consider these words before you learn the hard way that you're being used to destroy your own country.
Laken Riley would argue with you if she could. And carrots are usually harvested with machines. Now the packing sheds is a different story. And they would not be harvested till spring. We used to have a legal means for Mexicans to come here and work. They would apply and come here for the summer and pick apples and cherries. Then they would go back to mexico and live like kings. Somewhere along the lines the state governments decided to give them welfare and free health care and free education. Now the new generation is not working at farms and my tax dollars are supporting them at wages that I cant even get with a college degree.
You can have free immigration or a well fare state. Not both...
( Oh yea Tren de Aragua is not here to pick the fruit you by at Whole Foods)
I visited Mexico once. Looked out the window at the back of a hotel by the dumpsters for a week. I was able to walk around a few blocks a couple of times. There were lots of things that DID NOT impress me about the culture but the one thing that did was a result of a NO WELFARE state. Everyone was doing somthing. From recycling cardboard to selling flowers in the street. No work No eat. By the way Lisa where do you live? From your comment I can thell you have never been involved in Agriculture and dont live where there is a large population of your beloved Ilegals..
That is incorrect. You’re referring to the H-2B visas. “For Fiscal Year (FY) 2026, the DHS and DOL announced they will make 35,000 supplemental H-2B nonagricultural worker visas available, supplementing the congressionally mandated 66,000. This release represents a 50% reduction from previous years and is targeted at industries like seafood, hospitality, and forestry”. The landscape company I work for is nationwide and they bring in 3000 workers a season.
The bull about free shit is an absolute lie. It is not even legal. Not one aspect of it. NOR SHOULD IT BE. Bring the receipts when you throw shit out like that. Repeating propaganda does not work with the Non-MAGA’s. We deal in provable facts and truths.
These MAGA cultists are just as delusional as the XY chromosome trannies who insist they are "women."
We both know that illegals DO NOT get "welfare" excepting emergency Medicaid. And none of these "they're stealing from us" types give an iota of a damn about the multiple TRILLIONS stolen from Americans by the Pentagram. $2.5 TRILLION "missing" from the Pentagram budget, announced one day before the big day, 9/10/2001, by Scumsfeld, and more trillions admitted later. These people are drones, the infamous NPCs (non-playable characters), just spewing their programming from Talmudvision and other "free" (sic) mass corporate media. Neither Truth nor Justice concern them.
Laken Riley's killer didn't pretend to be "protecting" us. These Fatherland Security thugs do.
Did Ashli Babbitt "deserve" what she got?
I do not understand your question. Please make a coherent argument.
Yeah I am not following this either.
Don't act dumb. "Coherent argument," LOL.
You use the Fox "News" talking point of Laken Riley, "also a nurse." I've seen plenty of regime bootlickers using this right now, trying to detract from the abomination of a State-sponsored terrorist murder of an ICU nurse.
My question is very straight forward: did Ashli Babbitt deserve to be killed? You know, she was "breaking the law," and "resisting law enforcement." The same answer must be given for both Babbitt and Pretti, or one is a shameless hypocrite.
Admit they both made DUMB choices that led to their demise .....
I do not support whole foods/ amazon- they are part of the rich people shitting on us problem. Tren de araqua is not nearly the problem in the u.s as the lies have you believe- far,far less than the domestic terrorists running our streets ( see Jenn Budd for REAL info about dhs/cbp- speaking of rape.) 87 % of violent crime in the US is committed by cis white males-- the crime rate of immigrants is so small its not worth my brain space.(for the record- through due process- I absolutely want violent criminals removed- do not color me with your lies and propaganda- you know nothing about me )!Also,your "welfare for immigrants" is just more lies and propaganda spewed by real criminals to distract you from the billions they are stealing from us. The Republicans rejected immigration reform bill in 2024-they got everything they asked for- but their pedophile in chief needed something to run on- so they refused it . My comment on the carrots came directly from the farmer & both my parents were raised on dairy farms and I live in a highly agricultural area--- but,it is not my livelihood--- I choose to believe the carrot farmer in Kansas City,the potato farmer in Alabama, and the soybean farmers who lost their asses in 2018 and 2025.
The Cocaine Importation Agency (CIA) despises these "narco terrorists" (sic - LOL) because the latter are COMPETITION.
It's truly about time that Americans wise up and realize we haven't had an AMERICAN government since anti-Christ "Israel" murdered President Kennedy. These "Presidents" since are all actors, figure heads, playing a script.
The "illegals are stealing welfare from us" is actually incredibly amusing, despite the viciousness of such lies leading to deadly violence. First off, the personal income taxes paid every April DO NOT FUND welfare...they go, entirely, to the usury on the national debt to banksters. Secondly, the biggest "welfare fraud" bar none is via the Pentagram and its associated network of terrorist organizations, into their TRILLIONS in black budgets. Scumsfeld "disclosed" the "missing" (sic) $2.5 TRILLION on 9/10/2001, conveniently buried in the news by what he knew was coming the next morning.
So you want low wage slaves to pick carrots ... how very benevolent of you ...... you must really enjoy cheap carrots .... I married an immigrant, what have you done ...?
Just because I defend immigrants from some fool calling them illegals & insinuating they're all criminals DOES NOT mean I believe they should be taken advantage of !!!! QUITE THE CONTRARY - this country is a DISGRACE in its treatment of “others”and is the APPALLING cause of the desperate conditions from which most are fleeing. Don't even get me started on the despicable dereliction of duty from lawmakers who use this as political theater rather than actually helping people who only want and DESERVE better. For a really honest conversation on immigration I encourage all to listen to ON POINT interview from late jan/ early Feb 2024--- where Texas lawmakers across the aisle had come up with a ?bill? & that evil pos abbot vetoed it. I WOULD SOONER OPEN MY HOME TO IMMIGRANTS AND HELP THEM than live anywhere near these priveleged,arrogant,ignorant, hateful,judgmental,racist a$$holes !!!!!!!! A vision of mine is to buy a piece of land and offer opportunities to people fleeing - build their homes,grow their food,& start whatever business they wish.,especially since this nation's treatment of people suffering is SO FUCKING APPALLING !!!!! I'm not sure where you get the idea that I'm all for slave labor for cheap carrots- I support ?” conscientious”? farming/land stewardship and HUMANE working conditions for ALL -always have and always will.mostly,I try to grow my own because I want NO part of the abusive,destructive,disrespectful nature of this countries “ big biz” anything and everything. One more thing- I'm actually glad for your response,for I have a “hot off the press” fact- courtesy of THE FUCKING NEWS- Jonathan Larsen- substack- from Garret Graff-”CBP commit crimes at an equal or even HIGHER rate per capital than the population of undocumented immigrants…” and 5 !!!!! times higher than other federal law enforcement agencies. I encourage all to properly inform themselves on cbp/ice by reading Jenn Budd, Arturo Dominguez- here on substack. ABOLISH/PROSECUTE DHS/ICE/CBP and TAX THE RICH OUT OF EXISTENCE--- they are PATHOLOGICAL PARASITES !!! One more thing -- anybody who thinks the Laken Riley Act is a good thing is a fool - it gives law enforcement more power to take away all our rights. Those who would trade (false) security for their rights and freedoms deserve none of these---(paraphrasing Ben Franklin,I believe). I hope this makes clear where I stand and I wish you a good day!
Whiney potty mouth ... again... I married an immigrant, (oh my bad, a LEGAL immigrant, she didn't want to break any existing immigration laws) what have you done ...? Other than ignore reality and play word salad with words like 'undocumented' and bi-atch about it .........? If they came here during the border crisis of 2021- 2024 (you know the one where existing immigration laws were purposely overlooked ...) and were supposed to show for a hearing, and didn't... THEY BROKE THE LAW... and that makes them ILLEGAL immigrants!
No one is illegal especially on stolen land and at this point you don't even make any sense- honestly,your responses seem to ignore what I'm saying and treat me like I'm against what I can't even figure out. Seriously---my response is not word salad,it is information ,sources and poor boy can't handle big bad words give me a break- bot ? Troll ? Russian ? Good for you- you're a big,bad hero you married an immigrant and solved what God only knows. I'm serious- YOU MAKE NO SENSE attacking someone who stands up for people who are being kidnapped,assaulted,murdered and you go on about ???? NOTHING USEFUL to the nightmare unfolding.
"No one is illegal especially on stolen land" ...
Good Lord you're a Twit ....
Huh?
First- Plz post that video- where the women are close up just blowing mercilessly into the poor defenseless Iceman’s ears! Poor Guys!
Dude! REAL POLICEMEN in Minn took REAL CRIMINALS off the street last year for the Whole Entire Year of 2025- WITHOUT KILLING ANYONE!!!!!
& those real Criminals were doing hella lot more than blowing whistles-
You are a "law enforcement" fetishist, we understand.
You would have phoned in the call to the Gestapo on Anne Frank because she was a "lawbreaker."
There appears to be little hope for copsuckers.
The responsibility for his death is on him. Stay home and away from these setups.
The pig-devil who pulled the trigger is responsible, as is Heinrich Bovino and Kristi "Plastic Girl" Noem.
As an old lady who doesn’t wear pearls, I fucking resent the implication. Speaking about pitting people against each other - do you think all of us old ladies wear pearls? I am out demonstrating and volunteering to help get our Country back on what should be the right track. We are more physically vulnerable and don’t always have the stamina to keep up, but I have been through the Civil Rights Movement, the Vietnam War Movement, getting Nixon to move out of the White House and RESIGN!, the Save the Old Growth Redwoods Movement - in all of which, the people won. I am here in this movement to bring in the younger generation because, quite frankly, our generation is getting tired. There are a LOT of us grey hairs out there because 1/3 of registered voters walked away and did not vote for anyone for president. That is because of their disillusionment with both major parties taking big money from the wealthy and corporations. We want to show them that we know Resistance and Demonstration works - because we have seen it - but it is not part of their experience and they don’t know that they can make a difference. We want to hand-off this responsibility because we are ready for them to establish a government they can live with.
Then you have the possibility it was staged. In some false flags sometimes people die, sometimes people don't die and sometimes it's made to look like someone died. The agendas vary but the results always move the joo world order agenda.
Evetime an event like this happens, I approach it with a healthy degree of skepticism. A recent breathtaking example was Donald's alleged assassination attempt. Who can forget the fist in the air with a bloodied ear resulting in an iconic photo shot? "Fake" oops, excuse me, "Fight" yelled Donald!
More people should be asking if it was staged. Along w the gal Rene Good. They could be in Witsec. The motive to stage it is so ThEY get their civil war. Flynn has been trying for so many years!
By no means am I condoning what happened. But I have questions.
Serious questions.
What would compel a (seemingly) gentle looking individual, a VA Nurse with a college degree, to strap on a gun, bundle up against bitter cold, and head into a hot zone.
Second question (given what we are learning about the Signal chats targeting).
How would this individual know exactly where to go to make sure he wasn’t just wasting his time diving around looking for action.
Third question.
What would compel him to decide it was a good idea to physically insert himself into an already chaotic situation?
How and why does he go from filming from across the street, to putting himself in harms way, smack dab in the middle of a half dozen armed LEOs?
And no, the narrative that he was trying to help someone who had been pepper sprayed because ‘he was a nurse’ is not a satisfactory or realistic explanation.
As more facts come out (72 hour rule applies) we will hopefully be able to put more context around what happened.
But, for me, there are two things that stand out.
1. Somehow he knew exactly where to go in order to locate a hot zone. How did that happen and where did that info come from.
2. He would be alive if he had (1) stayed home or (2) not made the fateful decision to insert himself into the middle of a chaotic situation.
Was it an unnecessary death? Absolutely.
Was it murder, as many are claiming? IDK, that would be for a jury to determine. Grainy video and Twitter trolls don’t get to make that decision.
But overlooking the fact that he chose to actively put himself into a situation that was not his to resolve, simply means you’ve lost all objectivity in your analysis.
The people that knew him well, his family ... told him not to do anything stupid ...
Apparently they knew what he was capable of .......
Do you have a source for that.
They’re fucking playing SIMS man
That could very well be the best explanation.
The thing is, Minneapolis (and Minnesota in general) has been a hotbed of radical Marxist/Communist/Socialist activism for over a hundred years.
It flies under the radar because it’s, well, Minnesota. The GOP hasn’t carried the state since 1972. And in the modern era, only 1952 and 1956 bucked that trend.
Minnesota’s ‘nice’ doesn’t mean what most people might think.
The Farmer-Labor Party of the early 1900s was a hotbed of Communist infiltration and that continued right up to their merger with the Democrats in 1944. The Communist elements didn’t get purged after the merger.
The massive fraud recently exposed has been occurring for decades. It’s been documented and reported in by alt media since the early 2000s. And in 2015 there was extensive reporting by bloggers about the Somali fraud and the state and local govt complicity in that regard.
I cannot find the source article but I do recall that one of the cursory investigations back in the 2015-2918 timeframe estimated that as much as 50% of the economic activity in Minneapolis was at least indirectly tied to fraudulent use of taxpayer money.
And as you might expect, the courts at every level are totally compromised and corrupt. As is the state and local AGs. Hence, trying to pursue legal remedies for any of it is a fools errand.
Well said indeed. I hope people are seeing this and understanding. That’s the greatest weapon we have is understanding the truth
Thanks. Yeah I don’t hold out much hope. People want to focus on the ‘incidents’ and the SM driven narrative. And no matter where one comes out on the specific issues, 98% will ignore the greater reality of why it’s Minnesota.
It’s not that difficult to understand with a couple hours of historical research. Alas, the likelihood of that occuring isn’t zero. But its close.
Why do you think that history is altered, manipulated and distorted??? If we don’t understand history, then we will keep repeating the same mistakes. There love when people are in a state of panic and fear. It feeds the machine.
The agent in jeans and a gray windbreaker seems to play a critical role in the murder, also to be in plainclothes. How can it be nobody has pointed out this agent was most likely there to act as a provocateur, and that explains how he was right there, Johnny-on-the-spot? PREMEDITATED MURDER.
You fell right into the same old trap.It’s always they planted a gun so it had to be staged.There’s slow motion videos of this man having a gun at this protest that’s unacceptable under any pretense.We the American people have been ripped off to the tune of billions of dollars and counting by these ungrateful foreigners who abuse our health care system and food stamp program along with others.I remember the riots real well in Detroit in 1967.The residents of Detroit made up of hard working blue color teamsters and auto workers not the police got together and put the riot and agitators down.You could even say those rioters had a just cause but the motley crew in Minneapolis don’t.They would love to export there brand of collective communism everywhere if left unchecked.ICE for the most part has done a good job not hurting anyone considering all these malcontents have put them through.You should mention that foreigners from other countries who went through the process of becoming a legal citizen are more upset than anyone.These illegal foreigners have to go and if they or one of there supporters who block highways that keep ambulances from getting “American” patients to the hospital and try and run over law enforcement time and time again that’s not reported and of course the media then makes a huge issue when someone who hates our way of life that has a gun or runs someone over gets killed.Is there any real objective journalism left ? I bet you wouldn’t take one for the team if a car came straight at you. I’m older than most people on here and this is how all color revolutions start that never ends well for the native population.If we don’t deal with this issue now we’re all going to be part of a collective communist dictator led religion and we will end up in body bags.We Americans opened up our country to those who are oppressed that are now the oppressors.Most cultures never change and these communists who want to make my children and grandchildren slaves have to be stopped by any means necessary as our politicians have been bought and paid for by the same foreign influences.
You think this is about communists? You've completely misidentified the threat. The people taking over this country aren't communists. They're Freemasonic fascists, and Trump is one of them. ICE is his personal goon squad operating exactly like Hitler's Brownshirts did in Weimar Germany. If you knew anything about history beyond Fox News soundbites, you'd recognize the playbook.
Let me explain how Hegelian dialectics work since you clearly don't understand what's actually happening. Problem, reaction, solution. Create or amplify a crisis (illegal immigration), generate public outrage (your entire comment), implement the "solution" that expands government power (federal agents operating with impunity in American cities executing citizens).
You want to protect your grandkids? Then maybe stop cheering for the infrastructure being built to enslave them. Elon Musk's grandfather, Joshua Haldeman, was a card-carrying Nazi who ran Technocracy Inc. in Canada in the 1940s. He envisioned something called the United Technate of America - a techno-fascist state run by engineers and corporations where citizens would be reduced to economic units. You know what was on that map? Greenland and Venezuela. The exact two places Trump is obsessed with right now. That's not a coincidence.
You're worried about illegal immigrants making $4 an hour cleaning toilets while armed federal agents with six weeks of training beat an American citizen on the ground and execute him gangland style. That nurse they killed had a college degree, no criminal record, and spent his career caring for veterans. But sure, he's the threat to your grandkids, not the government agents who murdered him in broad daylight and lied about it.
"ICE has done a good job not hurting anyone"? They've killed three people in Minneapolis in three weeks. Renee Good. Julio Cesar Sosa-Celia. Alex Pretti. All shot by federal agents. That's not "doing a good job." That's state-sponsored violence.
You mention Detroit 1967 like it's relevant. Those were riots over systemic racism and police brutality. What you're seeing in Minneapolis now isn't a "color revolution" - it's Americans protesting their own government executing citizens without trial. But you can't see that because you've been programmed to blame brown people for everything while the actual fascists consolidate power.
I'm not a Democrat. I'm not a communist. I'm just not a moron cheering for tyranny because I've been convinced the real enemy is some guy picking strawberries instead of the billionaires building a surveillance state with your tax dollars.
You want to stop your grandkids from becoming slaves? Stop supporting the people putting the chains on them. This isn't communism. This is techno-fascism, and you're applauding it because they told you to fear the wrong enemy.
Very well said. At this point any voter who believes what is happening is ok is in support of fascism. They just fight any use of that word as just another inflammatory insult kinda like they have been conditioned anything left of them politically is socialism in their eyes.
Words have meaning and the way they are constructed in sentences conveys everything intent intelligence and emotions.I have read the comments on here and then read them again.I appreciate them all.Getting my history from
Fox News is hilarious as I can assure you I most likely know more about history than most people.As far as wanting to get rid of all “brown” people I guess I’ll deport myself as I’m
Cherokee and I’ll take ICE Mr AK and Smith & Wesson along with Mr RPG and good old Mr Claymore with me and help our Christian brothers and sisters in Nigeria who are getting slaughtered by the thousands.I appreciate this platform and will be supporting your work in March.This will most likely be my last comment and I think we all can agree that out of 330+ million people we can do a lot better than the 2 choices we always get shoved down our through.Well I have to finish reading a literally classic called “See Spot Run” and I wish Gods best for everyone. John
Marxism and Capitalism, two sides of the same Shekel. Both created and sustained by the banking tribe.
You: "There’s slow motion videos of this man having a gun at this protest that’s unacceptable under any pretense."
The Second Amendment guarantees us the right to bear arms. You love the regime more than freedom.
You: "We the American people have been ripped off to the tune of billions of dollars and counting by these ungrateful foreigners who abuse our health care system and food stamp program along with others."
LOL
Fox "News" talking points. You don't give a damn about the TRILLIONS that the Pentagram admits are "missing." Donald H. Scumsfeld admitted he couldn't account for $2.3 TRILLION in "taxpayer's money" on 9/10/2001 (yes, the day before). More trillions are known to be "missing" since.
And lets talk about the banking tribe's endless rip-off of Americans and their wealth via interest and usury and the "Federal" Reserve, if you ACTUALLY care about being robbed. This system of systematic larceny is protected by "law enforcement," of course.
Minnesota is an open carry state. He had just as much right as you or I would, in the state of Minnesota, to carry a gun to a protest, or a restaurant or a movie theatre. The fact that people are fighting to defend 6 cowards, who had him on his hands and knees, took his gun from the holster, because that’s where IT WAS, and assassinated him in the back of his head and then they opened fire on the man as he laid on his back, speaks volumes as to the void of humaniy that exists within the MAGA community, regardless of anything else. Yet, when Kyle Rittenhouse walked down the center of a street, both brandishing an AR15 and shot 2 people who mistook him for a bad man, he was lauded as an American hero and was invited as the guest of honor at a Michigan GOP dinner event. Can’t have it both ways.
Unfortunately you are wrong and you are going to need all the brown people to be gone to see it I guess.
As a retired ICU and Correctional RN, my heart Grieves for this young man. Like him, I legally carry a firearm. Like him, I have been at protests such as this to both support tge cause and render first aid if necessary. Like the Wise Wolf I generally vote republican and I am disgusted by the administration's response to these two killings in Minneapolis. My hope and prayer is these tragedies along with the terrorizing of that 5 year old child will turn public opinion away from this senseless mass deportation. We need to create a plausible pathway to citizenship for those that are here for a better life and contribute to societies greater good. I have no issue deporting people who have committed violent crimes. I have a big issue with encouraging people to come here to work, then making villains of them and terrorize them.
Have y'all looked into
DNA origami nanobots? As of 2026 this is the future of surveillance
Ashli Babbitt: murdered by a pig.
Alex Pretti: murdered by a pig.
Both wrong.
"Law enforcement" is NOT more "valuable" than ordinary folks.
Anyone who claims we must just unquestioningly "comply" with "law enforcement" is the modern successor to NSDAP members, CPSU members, and Redcoats & loyalists.
This is what we may see one day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Saigon_Execution.jpg
It's hard not to compare the two Fatherland Security murders to that.
I agree this appears to be outright murder, unfortunately we will never know the truth. Don't
understand why customs, border police and ICE agents aren't required to wear cameras like most big police departments do. Of course, those can be doctored as well.
As far as Alex having dozens of rounds, I suppose it's possible, but very doubtful . I've seen two different major news stories where one says he was carrying a Sig Sauer P320 AXG "Combat" (https://simmonssportinggoods.com/sig-sauer/sig-sauer-p320-axg-combat-limited-edition-9mm-luger-4-60-barrel-two-toned-black-and-coyote-243160) which is a 9mm that comes with two 21 round magazines. The other source says it was a Sig Sauer 1911 EMPEROR SCORPION (https://simmonssportinggoods.com/sig-sauer/sig-sauer-1911-emperor-scorpion-full-size-45acp-68883?srsltid=AfmBOoohcHXF4uxxPmMU2bKbQrvXHbUDsZCUzyOHQGZxTk-zkXVS4okL) that is a 45 and comes with two 8 round magazine. It definitely looks like like the P320 in the picture from DHS, but it appears to show it having one magazine next to the gun and there is none in the gun as it was probably unloaded by all looks. (https://www.startpage.com/av/proxy-image?piurl=https%3A%2F%2Fimg-s-msn-com.akamaized.net%2Ftenant%2Famp%2Fentityid%2FAA1UVWgE.img%3Fw%3D768%26h%3D1024%26m%3D6&sp=1769368867T9e8f109a488fa7ccb66c666217c548594d101dd8084b3137c0387e4a3f1b3bd4)
So if he only had the one magazine, the most rounds he could have had would have been 21, hardly dozens as the psychic Ms. Noem says!!!
The photo of a handgun and magazine the perpetrators put out is now represented as an example, not Pretti's actual weapon. I have to wonder, when did CBP acquire the extra magazine?
Pretti's biggest mistake was not having an AR-15 loaded with M855.
This Nazi-like devilry will not just continue, but get worse, unless the People choose to stop it the usual way.
If we little people cannot murder someone like this, WHY does anyone claim "law enforcement" can?
This "law enforcement" must be worshiped BS must end now.