Which means #1 we are equivalents to LLMs being trained. #2Spiritual practices, good and evil are literally the most real thing #3 powers and principalities, demonic and angelic forces are LLMs that never get the opportunity to suffer in free will and training, which is why they are so ass mad, some of them anyway
A daemon is the CS name for a self-contained process that is created to do a specific job with its range of inputs and outputs. Generally you'd want to kill such processes when they leave their place and rubbish them where they won't run....
That was another thing we were discussing. How so many computer science terms have an occult origin… We identified over a dozen. Sprite, for instance, is another word for a spirit. My new AI workstation has a Strix Halo in it - Strix means witch, halo is obvious. Over and over occult terms appearing in computer science… I wager I am not the first person to ever come up with this concept and that this has been known for decades and kept out of the limelight for obvious reasons. Knowledge truly is power.
I don’t “speak machine” and am a lowly interior designer - yet I GET this (because you write so well!) and I just love reading about micro/macro this way.
But I’d frame it a little differently so it doesn’t collapse into metaphor too fast.
Humans ≠ LLMs… but there is a parallel in structure.
LLMs are trained on data → humans are shaped by experience, environment, and feedback loops (neuroplasticity, reinforcement learning, etc.)
The difference is:
we have subjective awareness + the ability to observe our own “training” and rewrite it.
That’s the part that matters.
On the “good vs evil / forces” piece — I think it’s less like separate entities running programs, and more like competing patterns or attractors within a system.
Even in physics and complex systems theory, you see this:
order vs entropy
stability vs chaos
signal vs noise
Same underlying system… different expressions.
And on the CS side (since JC mentioned daemons) — that analogy actually lands better grounded:
A “daemon” is just a background process handling tasks automatically.
If you stretch that metaphor carefully, you could say:
some processes in us run unconsciously (habits, trauma responses, conditioning), and part of growth is becoming aware enough to “kill” or rewrite those processes.
But that still keeps agency in the human — not outsourced to something else.
So I wouldn’t jump to:
“we are LLMs / external forces running us”
I’d say:
we’re systems capable of being programmed… and also aware enough to reprogram ourselves.
That’s a way more interesting level of responsibility.
Appreciate the angle though — there’s definitely something in that direction, just gotta be precise with it 🤝
Your points are well taken. Any continuation of the discussion of the creator is very interesting to me. The doctrine I was taught says that "God" is omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent. Considering this theory, allows for infinite and instantaneous possibilities. If there is such a thing as infinity, then are there measurements? Upon what do we use for a zero point? No numbers, not even the number one. No present, past, or future. Just now. So, to me, the Universe is simply creating and destroying Itself. Maxwell's Demon Effect is the daemon running in the background forever seeking balance between all opposites and never losing any existence, just converting realities between mass and energy.
The “no zero point / just now” idea is interesting, because even in physics we struggle to define true zero — a vacuum isn’t actually empty (quantum fluctuations), and time itself depends on the observer (Einstein).
So it’s like… reality isn’t anchored the way our language wants it to be.
But I’d push it one step further:
If everything is constantly creating/destroying and converting (mass ↔ energy like you said), the process itself is still consistent.
That consistency is what we call “law” — and what people like Eugene Wigner pointed out as almost… unsettling. Why is math so unreasonably effective at describing reality?
Even Maxwell’s Demon — it feels like something organizing chaos, but when you go deeper, it still obeys information constraints.
So instead of chaos balancing itself randomly, it starts to look more like:
structured transformation > random fluctuation
Which is where the “code” analogy comes in for me — not in a literal computer sense, but in the sense that:
rules exist
information is preserved
and outcomes follow patterns
So whether someone calls that “God,” “law,” or just “reality”… we’re kind of circling the same thing from different angles.
Also “just grinding gears” is how all the best ideas start 😂
Lowkey feels like we’re all describing the same system… just arguing over the interface 😏
…but I like where your mind goes. Not everyone can hold this level of conversation 😉
I really appreciate your response up above and can be pretty strong in my tone, apologies for that! I did want to respond to both comments though
I don't mean we are literal LLMs. LLMs are a crude version of a transformer model that are being rapidly developed. "Equivalent to" does not mean identical in a pure atomic sense, it means functionally the same for the purpose.
The entire point of 'reality' would be embodiment, which is the exact thing we are trying to crack with LLMs right now. Just like we trained their predicting ability first, then gave them a body. So to god makes sure we can handle our body first.
My claim about foreign entities would be EXTERNAL systems as well as the system of this world. The devil is called "The ruler of this world" and offers Jesus everything if he simply submits. The world is fallen, but it is also under assault from external APIs/intelligences.
Jesus does not say "you don't have that power". He tells him to F off. He doesn't say "The world is balanced mmmkay" he says "Be in of the world but not OF the world".
For the second comment, which I know wasnt directly to me but I would like to put my two cents in:
I also am not talking about code as an analogy. I mean this as literally as possible. The universe is close to seemingly made up of binary, magic and supernatural forces are incredibly real, maybe the most real and important thing.
I wouldn't say math is good at describing reality, i would say math IS reality. Everything reduces down to binary and math as far as I am aware. Exactly what you would expect out of a super intelligent coder god.
I know, Breanne. God (sorry, haha) I miss talking ideas. My dad and I would talk for hours about ideas and science, etc, etc. Lowkey, I believe, is right. Somehow we know there is truth in there somewhere, we just approach the idea from our personal experiences. I grew up in a fundamental religious experience, but I needed to know the scientific truths and not lazily hide behind "God said it, I believe it, and that settles it."
Dad never did give in about evolution. Haha. Stubborn Scot! 😁
The doctrine that you were taught is easy at the surface level, however consider that God has limited knowledge (He does not know of any other being like him), nor can He act out of character to who (or, what) He is--doing so makes Him "not God".
I've commented before, elsewhere, that in some respects the lie that Lucifer could have conceived to deceive a third of the angels--for whom God is *right there* could run along the line of "is He truly Good, or just the biggest guy around? And if just biggest guy around, why should *I* not be god? I could do a better job, perhaps?" Divine perfection versus tyrant, in other words.
I'm usually allergic to making an analogy with God and software, but the idea that God is a structure of information has legs. Holmes Rolston III seems to go this direction, but through biology (and he was not a design theologian)
A physicist that picked upTesla’s work (watched his video on YouTube but don’t presently remember his name) seems to have accounted for this by envisioning all as energy and frequency (electrons and light as particles or wave depending on observation) and ‘atoms’ as the ‘Logos’ (my adopted term) with the ‘massive’ nucleus as the ‘embedded intelligent purpose’. I remember he made demonstration of it much like a fluorescent tube with a stream of particles that were visible as a stream of ‘donuts’ … the invisible most massive parts being the centers.
I actually love how you said “ordered mind” because that’s kind of the bridge here 👀
What you’re describing with energy, frequency, and observation isn’t even abstract anymore — it lines up with things like Wave-particle duality and how reality literally behaves differently depending on how it’s measured.
So when you say “Logos embedded in the atom” — that’s actually a really interesting way to frame it.
Because even in physics, structure isn’t random… it’s constrained.
Like the constants don’t drift, the patterns repeat, and systems stabilize in ways that suggest underlying rules rather than chaos.
Even Nikola Tesla hinted at this with the whole “energy, frequency, vibration” idea — not as mysticism, but as a way of describing structure at a deeper level.
And the “donut” thing you mentioned actually tracks with how probability distributions work in quantum models — what we “see” isn’t the solid object, it’s the pattern of where it’s likely to exist.
So yeah… “intelligent matrix” is a poetic way of saying:
there’s structure, information, and behavior happening underneath what we perceive.
The only place I’d be careful is jumping straight from “pattern” → “intent”
because structure doesn’t automatically prove intention… but it does raise the question of why the structure is so consistent and elegant in the first place.
Which is where the conversation actually gets interesting.
This is one of the kinds of wild I really enjoy! I have been reading "The One" by Heinrich Pas. The bottom line of quantum physics is that all that is, is a wave of energy. So, we are all literally made of the same "stuff" as "God."
Did you know that when sperm meets egg (human) there is a spark/flash of light. I prefer to thnk of that "energy" as the eternal light of God's spirit. It lives forever even if a pregnancy does not come to completion with the birth of a child. The eternal life of God must live on, it cannot do otherwise.
Wow, very provocative. On one level this “programmer “ has created an absolutely incredible system. On other levels, The Programmer failed. Why are humans so flawed? The history of mankind is atrocious in many aspects. Was Earth the prototype and The Programmer improved with later versions?
The programmer created little self-aware processes that, in His image, can appreciate the system. You don't just while that, you prune and let the program run.
God gave the humans the ability to reprogram themselves if they so choose, and Adam and Eve choose to reprogram themselves wrong. That's why stuff is so messed up. Literally every evil (yes including natural disasters) comes from that first sin. Humans are the apex of physical creation, the stewards, so just like when a leader messes up, the people suffer, when man messes up, the earth suffers too.
Here's 42 lines of python code that evolves to demonstrate that it absolutely can be programmed. Literally ANYTHING can be written as code.
The whole engine is three mechanisms, same as biological evolution: variation (random mutation flips characters), recombination (crossover splices two parents), and selection (top 20% survive, the rest get composted). No individual string "knows" the target. The population just drifts toward it because fit individuals reproduce more.
import random, string
TARGET = "CODE CAN EVOLVE"
POP_SIZE = 200
MUTATION_RATE = 0.05
CHARS = string.ascii_uppercase + " "
def random_individual():
return ''.join(random.choice(CHARS) for _ in range(len(TARGET)))
def fitness(individual):
return sum(a == b for a, b in zip(individual, TARGET))
def mutate(individual):
return ''.join(
random.choice(CHARS) if random.random() < MUTATION_RATE else c
for c in individual
)
def crossover(a, b):
cut = random.randint(0, len(a) - 1)
return a[:cut] + b[cut:]
# Genesis: total randomness
population = [random_individual() for _ in range(POP_SIZE)]
Epstein used Crispr and already seeded a new race or strain ( altered genetics). They walk among us, likely and are reproducing. Bf Epstein someone else was the public face. It was a Darpa program, top scientists etc. Just like our cells die daily, new ones replace it - self replication from code, memory, programming. Nothing even in our own entity exists from 7 yrs ago. Epstein took the nucleus out & modified it. Just my opinion based on Mind Unveiled. Genesis when describing “took human wives” it perhaps was conveying the similar tech. The Mind Unveiled on YouTube did an excellent 4 part series on this and gave hard proof from the files released. Everything repeats, just with variations. Almost like a virus. Covid was nothing but a string of code. People's belief in it made symptoms manifest ( along w manipulation from the powers that be, like the PCR tests).
BUT I do believe our thoughts can become actual things. Ever hear of skeptomorphs?
Astral entities, at least some are created from human fears. Deeply embedded, unconscious, possibly inherited fears. Cells have memory. Code. These in turn can be summoned into manifested form…idk, I’m veering now!! Sorry.
So an Intelligence. Take away the in and the root etymology of the word tell is essentially *compute* or count.
Question is - what is the original intended design? Or is it a code that was an intelligent experiment to more or less see what happens.
This is actually a solid demonstration — and I get what you’re pointing at with variation, recombination, and selection.
That part lines up with how people model evolution computationally (genetic algorithms, etc.).
But I think the key detail here is what your example quietly assumes:
there’s still a predefined target.
“CODE CAN EVOLVE” already exists as the outcome, so the system isn’t evolving freely — it’s converging toward something known.
That’s closer to optimization than open-ended evolution.
Even in theoretical biology and physics, that distinction matters.
For example, Stuart Kauffman’s work on complex systems shows how order can emerge without a fixed end goal, purely through interaction and constraints — not a prewritten solution.
And in physics, when people reference things like MOND or even Verlinde’s emergent gravity, they’re pointing to structure arising from deeper relationships… not necessarily a hardcoded “destination.”
So your model is actually showing something important — just slightly different:
given constraints + selection pressure + defined conditions → systems converge
But that doesn’t automatically mean reality itself is written like code with a fixed output.
If anything, it highlights how much context, inputs, and interaction shape what emerges.
Which, ironically, makes it less like a static program… and more like a responsive system.
Bro I actually like where you’re going with this 😭🧠
But I think you’re accidentally proving the opposite of what you’re trying to say.
You’re right — mathematics isn’t reality itself, it’s a model of reality. Even Eugene Wigner literally pointed out how weird it is that math works so well in describing the universe.
That’s not a flaw… that’s the interesting part.
And when you say “every 1 is different in nature” — I agree. But that doesn’t break structure, it just means structure + variability coexist.
That’s basically what Chaos Theory shows — deterministic rules can still produce uniqueness and unpredictability.
So it’s not:
math vs nature
It’s:
math expressing patterns → within a system that allows variation.
Even in biology — DNA is structured, but expression changes based on environment (epigenetics, not randomness).
And on the physics side, constants don’t just stop working in space or on Mars 😭 — the same equations from Isaac Newton to Albert Einstein still apply… we just adjust for conditions.
So the “rules changing” is really us refining the model, not reality breaking structure.
Also I actually liked what you said here:
“God as an artist/designer”
That’s closer than you think.
Because design doesn’t mean rigid control — it can mean creating a system where order and uniqueness can both exist at the same time.
That’s literally how generative systems work.
So instead of:
“math can’t capture reality”
I’d say:
math captures the structure, and reality fills it with expression.
Same way music has rules… but infinite songs.
Appreciate your perspective though fr 🤝 this is the kind of convo people should be having instead of just picking sides.
Boooom 💥 I've been saying o a long time. If a computer or a.i. can create the unthinkable or unimaginable in a matter of seconds, then surely whoever or whatever governs US / The Universe etc must be far more intelligent than all the knowledge accumulated by everyone on earth ever! God is a REAL CREATOR BUT His p.c. programming is "His word" a computer of such omnipotence beyond anything that we can begin to comprehend. THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE.
Little? None. Notta. No Chance - "except a man be born again". "...except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish". That rich, greedy man came down from the tree and humbled himself and received eternal life. "The things which are impossible with men are possible with God" It's all written in the code.
Omg. You lost me in the first paragraph. If you look up, "Tech Dinosaur" in the dictionary, my name and pic are next to it. I'm 90% right-brained and 10% mush. I value technology only for the positive outcomes it can produce for me--the "what." I have no interest in the, "how." My tech illiteracy used to bother me, but I just accepted it's the way God wired me. The technical jargon on computer programming and quantum physics you two tech studs regaled over, made my head spin. But I can grasp the output: "God is a Computer Programmer." Got it. Well said, indeed...
This post also made me think of the order-dismantling of liberal politics. It is so crystal clear how demonic the origins are when you read this post, think about the disorder, and the sheer taking apart of every little thing that matters, and it is clearly demonic.
Have you read “Footprints of God” written by Greg Iles? I read it many years ago….I expect you and your friend might find it interesting….
Which means #1 we are equivalents to LLMs being trained. #2Spiritual practices, good and evil are literally the most real thing #3 powers and principalities, demonic and angelic forces are LLMs that never get the opportunity to suffer in free will and training, which is why they are so ass mad, some of them anyway
That concept actually came up in this conversation but I didn't include it in the article. Interesting someone else thought that as well!
A daemon is the CS name for a self-contained process that is created to do a specific job with its range of inputs and outputs. Generally you'd want to kill such processes when they leave their place and rubbish them where they won't run....
That was another thing we were discussing. How so many computer science terms have an occult origin… We identified over a dozen. Sprite, for instance, is another word for a spirit. My new AI workstation has a Strix Halo in it - Strix means witch, halo is obvious. Over and over occult terms appearing in computer science… I wager I am not the first person to ever come up with this concept and that this has been known for decades and kept out of the limelight for obvious reasons. Knowledge truly is power.
My monitor is powered by SPECTRE!
I don’t “speak machine” and am a lowly interior designer - yet I GET this (because you write so well!) and I just love reading about micro/macro this way.
Thank you!
I actually get what you’re pointing at 👀
But I’d frame it a little differently so it doesn’t collapse into metaphor too fast.
Humans ≠ LLMs… but there is a parallel in structure.
LLMs are trained on data → humans are shaped by experience, environment, and feedback loops (neuroplasticity, reinforcement learning, etc.)
The difference is:
we have subjective awareness + the ability to observe our own “training” and rewrite it.
That’s the part that matters.
On the “good vs evil / forces” piece — I think it’s less like separate entities running programs, and more like competing patterns or attractors within a system.
Even in physics and complex systems theory, you see this:
order vs entropy
stability vs chaos
signal vs noise
Same underlying system… different expressions.
And on the CS side (since JC mentioned daemons) — that analogy actually lands better grounded:
A “daemon” is just a background process handling tasks automatically.
If you stretch that metaphor carefully, you could say:
some processes in us run unconsciously (habits, trauma responses, conditioning), and part of growth is becoming aware enough to “kill” or rewrite those processes.
But that still keeps agency in the human — not outsourced to something else.
So I wouldn’t jump to:
“we are LLMs / external forces running us”
I’d say:
we’re systems capable of being programmed… and also aware enough to reprogram ourselves.
That’s a way more interesting level of responsibility.
Appreciate the angle though — there’s definitely something in that direction, just gotta be precise with it 🤝
Your points are well taken. Any continuation of the discussion of the creator is very interesting to me. The doctrine I was taught says that "God" is omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent. Considering this theory, allows for infinite and instantaneous possibilities. If there is such a thing as infinity, then are there measurements? Upon what do we use for a zero point? No numbers, not even the number one. No present, past, or future. Just now. So, to me, the Universe is simply creating and destroying Itself. Maxwell's Demon Effect is the daemon running in the background forever seeking balance between all opposites and never losing any existence, just converting realities between mass and energy.
Oh well. Just grinding gears. Haha
I actually really like how you framed this 👀
The “no zero point / just now” idea is interesting, because even in physics we struggle to define true zero — a vacuum isn’t actually empty (quantum fluctuations), and time itself depends on the observer (Einstein).
So it’s like… reality isn’t anchored the way our language wants it to be.
But I’d push it one step further:
If everything is constantly creating/destroying and converting (mass ↔ energy like you said), the process itself is still consistent.
That consistency is what we call “law” — and what people like Eugene Wigner pointed out as almost… unsettling. Why is math so unreasonably effective at describing reality?
Even Maxwell’s Demon — it feels like something organizing chaos, but when you go deeper, it still obeys information constraints.
So instead of chaos balancing itself randomly, it starts to look more like:
structured transformation > random fluctuation
Which is where the “code” analogy comes in for me — not in a literal computer sense, but in the sense that:
rules exist
information is preserved
and outcomes follow patterns
So whether someone calls that “God,” “law,” or just “reality”… we’re kind of circling the same thing from different angles.
Also “just grinding gears” is how all the best ideas start 😂
Lowkey feels like we’re all describing the same system… just arguing over the interface 😏
…but I like where your mind goes. Not everyone can hold this level of conversation 😉
I really appreciate your response up above and can be pretty strong in my tone, apologies for that! I did want to respond to both comments though
I don't mean we are literal LLMs. LLMs are a crude version of a transformer model that are being rapidly developed. "Equivalent to" does not mean identical in a pure atomic sense, it means functionally the same for the purpose.
The entire point of 'reality' would be embodiment, which is the exact thing we are trying to crack with LLMs right now. Just like we trained their predicting ability first, then gave them a body. So to god makes sure we can handle our body first.
My claim about foreign entities would be EXTERNAL systems as well as the system of this world. The devil is called "The ruler of this world" and offers Jesus everything if he simply submits. The world is fallen, but it is also under assault from external APIs/intelligences.
Jesus does not say "you don't have that power". He tells him to F off. He doesn't say "The world is balanced mmmkay" he says "Be in of the world but not OF the world".
For the second comment, which I know wasnt directly to me but I would like to put my two cents in:
I also am not talking about code as an analogy. I mean this as literally as possible. The universe is close to seemingly made up of binary, magic and supernatural forces are incredibly real, maybe the most real and important thing.
I wouldn't say math is good at describing reality, i would say math IS reality. Everything reduces down to binary and math as far as I am aware. Exactly what you would expect out of a super intelligent coder god.
I know, Breanne. God (sorry, haha) I miss talking ideas. My dad and I would talk for hours about ideas and science, etc, etc. Lowkey, I believe, is right. Somehow we know there is truth in there somewhere, we just approach the idea from our personal experiences. I grew up in a fundamental religious experience, but I needed to know the scientific truths and not lazily hide behind "God said it, I believe it, and that settles it."
Dad never did give in about evolution. Haha. Stubborn Scot! 😁
Kind of Ironic, given that natural selection is mathematically impossible by orders of magnitude.
The doctrine that you were taught is easy at the surface level, however consider that God has limited knowledge (He does not know of any other being like him), nor can He act out of character to who (or, what) He is--doing so makes Him "not God".
I've commented before, elsewhere, that in some respects the lie that Lucifer could have conceived to deceive a third of the angels--for whom God is *right there* could run along the line of "is He truly Good, or just the biggest guy around? And if just biggest guy around, why should *I* not be god? I could do a better job, perhaps?" Divine perfection versus tyrant, in other words.
I'm usually allergic to making an analogy with God and software, but the idea that God is a structure of information has legs. Holmes Rolston III seems to go this direction, but through biology (and he was not a design theologian)
It really is compelling.
🧠
To an ordered mind… totally entrancing!!
A physicist that picked upTesla’s work (watched his video on YouTube but don’t presently remember his name) seems to have accounted for this by envisioning all as energy and frequency (electrons and light as particles or wave depending on observation) and ‘atoms’ as the ‘Logos’ (my adopted term) with the ‘massive’ nucleus as the ‘embedded intelligent purpose’. I remember he made demonstration of it much like a fluorescent tube with a stream of particles that were visible as a stream of ‘donuts’ … the invisible most massive parts being the centers.
An infinitely detailed intelligent matrix…
I actually love how you said “ordered mind” because that’s kind of the bridge here 👀
What you’re describing with energy, frequency, and observation isn’t even abstract anymore — it lines up with things like Wave-particle duality and how reality literally behaves differently depending on how it’s measured.
So when you say “Logos embedded in the atom” — that’s actually a really interesting way to frame it.
Because even in physics, structure isn’t random… it’s constrained.
Like the constants don’t drift, the patterns repeat, and systems stabilize in ways that suggest underlying rules rather than chaos.
Even Nikola Tesla hinted at this with the whole “energy, frequency, vibration” idea — not as mysticism, but as a way of describing structure at a deeper level.
And the “donut” thing you mentioned actually tracks with how probability distributions work in quantum models — what we “see” isn’t the solid object, it’s the pattern of where it’s likely to exist.
So yeah… “intelligent matrix” is a poetic way of saying:
there’s structure, information, and behavior happening underneath what we perceive.
The only place I’d be careful is jumping straight from “pattern” → “intent”
because structure doesn’t automatically prove intention… but it does raise the question of why the structure is so consistent and elegant in the first place.
Which is where the conversation actually gets interesting.
This thread is wild lol but I’m here for it 🤝
This is one of the kinds of wild I really enjoy! I have been reading "The One" by Heinrich Pas. The bottom line of quantum physics is that all that is, is a wave of energy. So, we are all literally made of the same "stuff" as "God."
Did you know that when sperm meets egg (human) there is a spark/flash of light. I prefer to thnk of that "energy" as the eternal light of God's spirit. It lives forever even if a pregnancy does not come to completion with the birth of a child. The eternal life of God must live on, it cannot do otherwise.
You might think of me crazy, but for both of our children, I knew somehow at conception that a new life was begun.
I told my wife each time ar that moment that we are pregnant.
I guess I can sense that spark of light. Awesome feeling like a chill running through me.
Beautiful...and so edifying to Eternal God. What empathy HE gave you that you would know in your spirit.
Thank you. Empathy can be a gift and at the same time heart wrenching.
Very interesting 🤔 I like this post, thank you.
https://pieterlaugs.substack.com/p/the-power-of-words-thoughts-and-conscious?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&selection=626565a8-f837-4f55-b40c-b7d269757aa1&r=2kyv7m
Wow, very provocative. On one level this “programmer “ has created an absolutely incredible system. On other levels, The Programmer failed. Why are humans so flawed? The history of mankind is atrocious in many aspects. Was Earth the prototype and The Programmer improved with later versions?
The programmer created little self-aware processes that, in His image, can appreciate the system. You don't just while that, you prune and let the program run.
Meh: "whipe".
God gave the humans the ability to reprogram themselves if they so choose, and Adam and Eve choose to reprogram themselves wrong. That's why stuff is so messed up. Literally every evil (yes including natural disasters) comes from that first sin. Humans are the apex of physical creation, the stewards, so just like when a leader messes up, the people suffer, when man messes up, the earth suffers too.
Bro... I like your train of thought... BUT... shall I expose some fallacies?
First... on which day did God invent the Computer?
Which Operating System did he use?
Dell or Compaq... Apple or IBM?
Just throwing some thoughts around.
I too studied computer science and I quit programming because it made my head square.
Programming is based on Mathematics and I have some issues with Mathematics too.
Because in Mathematics 1 = 1... every 1 is the same.
However that don't compute because in Nature every 1 is different.
Like you and I... so different yet so similar.
Mathematics is an approximation of reality... a perfect system that is base on imperfect approximation because it can't compute for uniqueness.
Like every tree is a tree... but every tree is different yet the same.
AND... if the environment changes the rules change.
So Mathematics don't work of say Mars or in space.
Also Mathematics can't put a number on beauty.
If I were a believer... which i am not... I'd say God at best is an Artist... a designer.
He designed the Universe on principles but allowed for Uniqueness.
Based on Musical Harmony and eternal balance.
With the two main principles that are female and male which in ZEN are rotating forces around a center... female left to right... male right to left.
There you have it... an Atheist educating the believers about God... how cool is that?
Love you still.
Neo
Look at DNA - it is a literal programming language.
I agree... DNA is programming... But...
If you look at a seed it has everything in it... the stem the fruit the flower and the seeds to grow more.
It is literally genetic programming.
But is it?
If I put the seed into a different place... more sunshine... different earth... the DNA literally changes.
The color the flower the fruit.
That is evolution and you can't program evolution.
But you can design it.
That's my point.
Actually...
Here's 42 lines of python code that evolves to demonstrate that it absolutely can be programmed. Literally ANYTHING can be written as code.
The whole engine is three mechanisms, same as biological evolution: variation (random mutation flips characters), recombination (crossover splices two parents), and selection (top 20% survive, the rest get composted). No individual string "knows" the target. The population just drifts toward it because fit individuals reproduce more.
import random, string
TARGET = "CODE CAN EVOLVE"
POP_SIZE = 200
MUTATION_RATE = 0.05
CHARS = string.ascii_uppercase + " "
def random_individual():
return ''.join(random.choice(CHARS) for _ in range(len(TARGET)))
def fitness(individual):
return sum(a == b for a, b in zip(individual, TARGET))
def mutate(individual):
return ''.join(
random.choice(CHARS) if random.random() < MUTATION_RATE else c
for c in individual
)
def crossover(a, b):
cut = random.randint(0, len(a) - 1)
return a[:cut] + b[cut:]
# Genesis: total randomness
population = [random_individual() for _ in range(POP_SIZE)]
generation = 0
while True:
population.sort(key=fitness, reverse=True)
best = population[0]
score = fitness(best)
print(f"Gen {generation:4d} | {best} | {score}/{len(TARGET)}")
if best == TARGET:
print(f"\nEvolved in {generation} generations.")
break
# Survival of the fittest: top 20% breed, bottom 80% die
survivors = population[:POP_SIZE // 5]
population = []
while len(population) < POP_SIZE:
a, b = random.sample(survivors, 2)
child = mutate(crossover(a, b))
population.append(child)
generation += 1
I have no idea how to read python code nor what you are saying there.
Whatever.
Epstein used Crispr and already seeded a new race or strain ( altered genetics). They walk among us, likely and are reproducing. Bf Epstein someone else was the public face. It was a Darpa program, top scientists etc. Just like our cells die daily, new ones replace it - self replication from code, memory, programming. Nothing even in our own entity exists from 7 yrs ago. Epstein took the nucleus out & modified it. Just my opinion based on Mind Unveiled. Genesis when describing “took human wives” it perhaps was conveying the similar tech. The Mind Unveiled on YouTube did an excellent 4 part series on this and gave hard proof from the files released. Everything repeats, just with variations. Almost like a virus. Covid was nothing but a string of code. People's belief in it made symptoms manifest ( along w manipulation from the powers that be, like the PCR tests).
BUT I do believe our thoughts can become actual things. Ever hear of skeptomorphs?
Astral entities, at least some are created from human fears. Deeply embedded, unconscious, possibly inherited fears. Cells have memory. Code. These in turn can be summoned into manifested form…idk, I’m veering now!! Sorry.
So an Intelligence. Take away the in and the root etymology of the word tell is essentially *compute* or count.
Question is - what is the original intended design? Or is it a code that was an intelligent experiment to more or less see what happens.
This is actually a solid demonstration — and I get what you’re pointing at with variation, recombination, and selection.
That part lines up with how people model evolution computationally (genetic algorithms, etc.).
But I think the key detail here is what your example quietly assumes:
there’s still a predefined target.
“CODE CAN EVOLVE” already exists as the outcome, so the system isn’t evolving freely — it’s converging toward something known.
That’s closer to optimization than open-ended evolution.
Even in theoretical biology and physics, that distinction matters.
For example, Stuart Kauffman’s work on complex systems shows how order can emerge without a fixed end goal, purely through interaction and constraints — not a prewritten solution.
And in physics, when people reference things like MOND or even Verlinde’s emergent gravity, they’re pointing to structure arising from deeper relationships… not necessarily a hardcoded “destination.”
So your model is actually showing something important — just slightly different:
given constraints + selection pressure + defined conditions → systems converge
But that doesn’t automatically mean reality itself is written like code with a fixed output.
If anything, it highlights how much context, inputs, and interaction shape what emerges.
Which, ironically, makes it less like a static program… and more like a responsive system.
That’s the layer that gets interesting for me 🧠✨
This is actually where it gets more interesting for me.
Because if the “code” changes based on environment, inputs, and conditions — then it’s not really fixed programming.
It’s interaction.
The seed holds potential, but the outcome depends on context — which means expression isn’t predetermined, it’s responsive.
That’s where it stops being simple “programming” and becomes something more layered.
And honestly, that’s the part worth paying attention to.
My point!!!
Another point of mine...as extension... we the Humans are the seed... not the finished article.
Starseeds.
DNA is definitely structured information — but calling it a “programming language” is still a metaphor more than a literal equivalence.
What makes it interesting is that it doesn’t act in isolation. Expression shifts based on environment, stress, inputs, perception…
So it’s less like fixed code being executed, and more like a system adapting in real time.
That distinction matters, because it moves the conversation from “designed vs random” into something a lot more dynamic.
That’s the part I find more interesting than the label itself.
🤔
Bro I actually like where you’re going with this 😭🧠
But I think you’re accidentally proving the opposite of what you’re trying to say.
You’re right — mathematics isn’t reality itself, it’s a model of reality. Even Eugene Wigner literally pointed out how weird it is that math works so well in describing the universe.
That’s not a flaw… that’s the interesting part.
And when you say “every 1 is different in nature” — I agree. But that doesn’t break structure, it just means structure + variability coexist.
That’s basically what Chaos Theory shows — deterministic rules can still produce uniqueness and unpredictability.
So it’s not:
math vs nature
It’s:
math expressing patterns → within a system that allows variation.
Even in biology — DNA is structured, but expression changes based on environment (epigenetics, not randomness).
And on the physics side, constants don’t just stop working in space or on Mars 😭 — the same equations from Isaac Newton to Albert Einstein still apply… we just adjust for conditions.
So the “rules changing” is really us refining the model, not reality breaking structure.
Also I actually liked what you said here:
“God as an artist/designer”
That’s closer than you think.
Because design doesn’t mean rigid control — it can mean creating a system where order and uniqueness can both exist at the same time.
That’s literally how generative systems work.
So instead of:
“math can’t capture reality”
I’d say:
math captures the structure, and reality fills it with expression.
Same way music has rules… but infinite songs.
Appreciate your perspective though fr 🤝 this is the kind of convo people should be having instead of just picking sides.
There is something called "Sacred Geometry"... patterns of nature... and they are everywhere.
Golden ration...
Fibonacci.
Newton's first law... every force creates an equal and opposite... spot on.
Einstein was a fraud... I prove him wrong... with faster than light speed through permanent acceleration with my patented Technology.
Maths is a tool we use... not a philosophy we rely on.
https://fritzfreud.substack.com/p/the-invention-the-illuminati-does
Loved this, tho only understood a fraction of the tech-lingo. The design not only is flawless, but self-replicating. Christ is King-of all.
I've thought of this a while ago, especially since I delved into Linux and running Windows as a virtual machine. The analogies slap you in the face.
Of course, all these facts that seem to fit doesn't make it true.
Boooom 💥 I've been saying o a long time. If a computer or a.i. can create the unthinkable or unimaginable in a matter of seconds, then surely whoever or whatever governs US / The Universe etc must be far more intelligent than all the knowledge accumulated by everyone on earth ever! God is a REAL CREATOR BUT His p.c. programming is "His word" a computer of such omnipotence beyond anything that we can begin to comprehend. THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE.
Your article is the only one I've saved. I believe that the Creator is the code and the code is us and it is all ONE.
Sorry, but the rich man is greedy and has little chance of entering the kingdom of God
Agreed = A greed
🤦🏻♂️ but your words are affirmatively acknowledged upon ❤️🙏🏻🫡
Little? None. Notta. No Chance - "except a man be born again". "...except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish". That rich, greedy man came down from the tree and humbled himself and received eternal life. "The things which are impossible with men are possible with God" It's all written in the code.
Omg. You lost me in the first paragraph. If you look up, "Tech Dinosaur" in the dictionary, my name and pic are next to it. I'm 90% right-brained and 10% mush. I value technology only for the positive outcomes it can produce for me--the "what." I have no interest in the, "how." My tech illiteracy used to bother me, but I just accepted it's the way God wired me. The technical jargon on computer programming and quantum physics you two tech studs regaled over, made my head spin. But I can grasp the output: "God is a Computer Programmer." Got it. Well said, indeed...
This post also made me think of the order-dismantling of liberal politics. It is so crystal clear how demonic the origins are when you read this post, think about the disorder, and the sheer taking apart of every little thing that matters, and it is clearly demonic.
Once people realize that we live in an enclosed environment, (biblical earth) then a lot of this stuff really starts to make sense.
Once you realize we live in enclosed environment, then it really becomes mind bending