A very important message, we should focus on preserving knowledge as much as running after more of it.
And yes, a Type II advanced alien civilization can control its own Sun and use it as a weapon. And there's no solid reason to rule out this possibility.
C.S. Lewis, in “MERE CHRISTIANITY”, talks about civilizations destroyed in cycles. It’s more of a civil war situation where the most powerful ( and evil) groups fight & claw their way to the top of every political, social, & corporate hierarchy. Then, when the regular citizens had suffered enough, they basically topple the system by force, and everything collapses. The rebuilding begins again.
We see the evil globalists right now, planning their hideouts & hoping the citizens will comply to the end game.
Digital ID’s are being pushed, and U.N.Agenda 21/30, is deeply embedded in mandatory city compliance policies & guidelines in the U.S. & internationally.
15 minute cities? Yep, this is it.
Divisiveness, IN OUR WORLD, has been a constant reminder that there are those that want us to hate each other, for all kinds of reasons.
In no particular order:
Religion, race, socioeconomic, political, culture, sexual preference, etc.
Why the constant chaos, hate, and manipulated media to push it all in our faces?
Because.. UNITED WE STAND!
Divided, we fall.
And if we can come together & rise up against this evil??!!
THE GAME IS SO, SO OVER FOR THEM.
And they know that.
I’m not sure why different cultures have the same stories that are similar, but I’ve thought a lot about this.
I think it’s to throw us all off. It’s manipulated evil & it’s not even true.
Because, only the Bible is true & the best way to minimize truth is to lie.
Satan is very good at that.
The flood with Noah was true. And there is proof in every continent that this happened, exactly the way the Bible describes. There’s a great documentary on this. It factually proves the devastation & the suddenness through the archaeology of living creatures, during the flood.
Bottom line ( for me), is I don’t have to understand everything & everybody that has come before. There are so many fake facts out right now, it might be imperative for society to start over. Isn’t it a sign when our citizen’s life spans are decreasing, instead of increasing? Our trust in health care is at an all- time low. Our dr.s have been indoctrinated instead of educated. ( maybe don’t save as many of the medical school books published in the last 50 years?) Seriously. Save more food- nutrition books.
Love & follow God, protect & love your family & neighbors, and love your country.
P.S. It’s important to not waste resources or abuse our environment. We are WAY off track w/ thinking our resources are limited or we have overpopulated our world. It’s quite the opposite. This was a manipulated narrative by the Rockefeller family, to get people to believe that humans were harming the world. And we would be ok with extra taxes, programs, & loss of freedoms, to save it.
Also wise wolf, & sorry this is long,
WE ARE SPECIAL!
That’s another globalist, evil, agenda that’s been pushed for decades.
( that we aren’t)
We were made in the image of our creator & the magic of life is what “ they” - the evil globalist planners, are trying to imitate & recreate.
They don’t want us to know the power we possess by being children of God.
We are beyond SPECIAL.
For those that accept Jesus as their savior, they will receive the same power that raised Jesus from the grave. ( through the Holy Spirit)
This is not a mythological claim, it is real.
This is why they want to close churches during lockdowns, there is power in those buildings that they can’t “ control.”
Interesting comments. I appreciate your research Wise Wolf - I found it very interesting. I have previously read of some parallels to the Biblical account of the flood etc. I personally don't see that as a conflict - but more confirmation. You have given me much to ponder and further research.
Everything you shared I shared with others years ago. The wisdom of the ancestors of the Oriabi tribe and many tribal people have gathered to warn the masses of what’s coming.
Few came together but went off on different trails. The Shift is coming - sooner than people think. It is said that The Red race, White race, Yellow race & Black race “may” be preserved, but it would be the Red race that will survive above all others around the globe. The Reason? Because their ancestors have been through it before. (Hopi Prophecy), located in the 4 corners region of the US.
Biblical prophesy also alludes to an end. The tribulation will be a rocky road. Those who survive the cataclysm will be in dire straits before our solar system is completely destroyed and a new earth born.
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us. There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
I have a few acres of land up north but nowhere near what I’d need and I’d have to find some sort of rich benefactor willing to invest 10+ million to actually make this happen but people are more interested in throwing money at things like BLM or other scam charities than they are in actually creating something to help carry civilization forward through the darkest of times.
Sad, but true! People are still so asleep. Even most of the awake have gone back to being semi asleep…….back to, at least, semi listening to mainstream media, social media, etc…. In my book asleep…..
I’m not all doom and gloom. I think we are headed for a Golden Age. It’s just going to be a little rocky getting there as paradigms shift and the old ones die. People don’t know what to do unless they’re told. It’s the small self governed communities that are going to make it and will be the ones that eventually thrive…..at least at first. And, probably for a while. So your ideas are good and solid. Unfortunately, I don’t have any money to give. Lots of interesting life experience and a few thousand books…print and electronic. But, that’s about it. Other than the desire to find a small town or community of good, honest, helpful people to work WITH and build a solid foundation for future generations. Hopefully out of WA state.
By the way, I like the name of your article/post. It reminded me of The Moody Blues “Days of Future Passed” album name. Which was fitting because John Lodge had died just two or three days earlier. Justin Hayward is the only member left. They’re a favorite of mine. Even though that album was released exactly five months before I was born.
Have you noticed the beginning of the end of Substack recently? Every time I attempt to “like” a comment, I have to log in and enter a secret code. Then if I want to post a comment, I have to login and enter a secret code all over again just like I did three minutes earlier. I don’t know how long everyone else will put up with that ridiculous form of censorship but, the end is quickly nearing for me. They obviously sold their asses out to the highest bidder.
Are there any legends of 'Great Silver Birds' aka aeroplanes from previous cultures? It is some kind of meme floating around that I have heard over the years but I don't know if it has any historical basis.
"James Hilton’s “Lost Horizon” (1933). Walter M. Miller Jr.’s “A Canticle for Leibowitz” (1959). Isaac Asimov’s “Foundation” trilogy (1951-1953)."
Other novels that had some concern with the preservation of knowledge include Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 and Larry Niven's & Jerry Pournelle's Lucifer's Hammer, though the last was about a cometary impact.
Have you seen the videos of the UAPs flying along with missiles and inspecting them or possibly attempting to disarm them? I know it is the small grays but, I do not know if they are trying to save humanity from themselves or if they just have an interest in saving the planet.
Any species that spies on another is not friendly. They are not here to save anyone or the planet. They are what in military parlance would be called ‘scouts’. If they exist, they are an invasionary force.
Agree. I forget who it was that said something along the lines of truly peaceful civilizations with no aggressive thoughts of conquest, etc, would be at home and not here. So when we see some here, it should not automatically be assumed that they are peaceful and interested in saving people/planet.
Exactly. If they had good intentions, they would have shown up and immediately revealed themselves as peaceful. They would have opened up their ships, let us inspect them for weapons, placed themselves willingly in quarantine while we investigated them, given us technology freely, etc. If these things are really visiting our world and not revealing themselves its because they have nefarious motives. We have to assume alien species operate much in the same ways that we do. If a nation wants to invade another nation, they send spies and infiltrators. If this species is advanced enough to travel thousands of light years to Earth, they'd be advanced enough to create synthetic human robots that were indistinguishable from normal humans and use them to infiltrate every aspect of society and destroy it from within by introducing counter-productive propaganda to weaken the species... like say convincing young women to want criminal gangbanger men that will beat them and give them diseases after impregnating them with a few children they have no intention of raising, convincing young boys they are really girls and need to be on estrogen to grow boobs and dress in drag, pit every racial group against one another by bringing up 200 year old grievances that they have no right to be angry about because it DID NOT happen to them, convince women that they 'don't need no man' so men have no incentive to fight because they have nothing worth protecting - no loving, loyal wife, no kids in a loving home, etc... shit after writing all that, I am pretty sure we have been invaded by aliens...
The craft which crashed in 1947 and the one being still alive that was interviewed said the reason they were here is to investigate “Burning clouds” and we all know what caused that. Any civilization that far advanced, if hostile, could have eliminated us long ago. It doesn’t require for a civilization to be much more advanced to be more civilized than our own, who are frothing at the mouth to annihilate everyone.
“We haven’t found pre-flood nuclear reactors or ancient circuit boards.”
More importantly we haven’t found any fission products in the environment that were created prior to 1945, other than the natural fission in the Oklo uranium deposits about 1.7 billion years ago.
Oklo isn't the only natural source of fission products prior to 1945.
Spontaneous fission occurs naturally in uranium-238 and thorium-232 deposits worldwide, creating fission products continuously over geological time. There are actually about 16 natural reactor zones identified at Oklo alone, not just one. Natural fission products exist in uranium ore deposits globally from ongoing spontaneous decay processes.
So while we haven't found evidence of artificial nuclear technology prior to 1945, saying Oklo is the only natural fission source is incorrect. Natural fission has been happening in heavy element deposits across the planet for billions of years.
Well, yes, I know about spontaneous fission. But it is, after all, spontaneous (i.e., not moderated). No one would confuse it, or Oklo, with Vedic reactor or bomb results.
BTW, ever read Michael O'Brien's Voyage to Alpha Centauri?
I strongly disagree with your characterization. The idea that civilization and language are creations of Lucifer contradicts multiple biblical accounts:
On Language: In Genesis, God is depicted as the first speaker - "God said, 'Let there be light.'" Language appears to be part of the divine order, not a demonic corruption. God uses language to create, to name, and to communicate with humanity. Adam is given the task of naming the animals (Genesis 2:19-20), suggesting language is part of humanity's God-given purpose.
On Civilization: After Cain builds the first city (Genesis 4:17), the Bible doesn't condemn city-building as inherently evil. Later, God establishes covenants with peoples and nations. The Bible culminates in Revelation with the vision of the New Jerusalem - a heavenly city, suggesting civilization's ultimate form is redemptive, not demonic.
On Human Cooperation: The Tower of Babel story (Genesis 11) isn't condemning language or civilization as Luciferian - it's about human pride and the attempt to reach heaven through human effort alone. God confuses the languages, but doesn't eliminate language itself.
Your "Nature's God" framing sounds more like Romantic primitivism than biblical theology. Scripture presents humans as created in God's image with the capacity and calling to cultivate the earth and build societies.
The bible is written. Written by men with language. God came before man, man came before words, words came before writing, writing came before the bible. Quite simply, the bible is a creation of man divinely inspired but without man's invention of writing the bible would not exist. Do you think Nature's God speaks or writes with the creations of men? I don't think so.
Your chronology is completely backwards here. You're assuming language is a human invention, but that's not what the tradition actually teaches.
In Jewish mysticism, Hebrew isn't something Adam made up - it was given to him by God. It's considered the primordial language, the actual language God used to speak creation into existence. When God said "Let there be light," those weren't placeholder sounds that got translated later. The words themselves were the creative force. Adam received this language to name creation, he didn't invent it.
And you're completely ignoring John 1:1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." The Logos existed before creation, before humanity, before time. Language isn't some human trick that came after God - it's intrinsic to God's nature. God IS the Word.
You say God came before man, man came before words - but that only works if you assume language is purely human invention. The whole biblical claim is that God spoke FIRST, creating through divine speech, and then gave us language as a reflection of that divine attribute. Various traditions talk about Enochian and other angelic languages given by revelation, not invented by humans.
And honestly, if God can't use "the creations of men," then God can't use prophets, scribes, or human understanding at all. That makes all revelation impossible. Your Nature's God apparently can't communicate with creation, which is a pretty useless deity.
God would never have allowed the Bible to be written, if HE disapproved of it. And that it has lasted for all these centuries, shows even more proof of that. HE is all powerful and could have easily taken away all the writings that came together to form the Bible. Easily.
I think we both agree that God is good and Love wins. We disagree about the beginning. For me, God came before the word God. Before any words. The first people of australia call the beginning the Dreamtime. Before man, before earth, before light, before oceans and wind and rain. I equate God with the Dreamtime. No words. No light, no shadow. The Dreamtime cosmology is recreated in the transformation of the dreaming to man to words. I say man came before words, that words are a creation of man.
And I remember you recent post - Uncle of the Wise Wolf, rest in peace
A very important message, we should focus on preserving knowledge as much as running after more of it.
And yes, a Type II advanced alien civilization can control its own Sun and use it as a weapon. And there's no solid reason to rule out this possibility.
Thanks for that mention btw!
One thing that is strange is how in Russia the coming pole shift is openly discussed in public but, in the US….crickets..
C.S. Lewis, in “MERE CHRISTIANITY”, talks about civilizations destroyed in cycles. It’s more of a civil war situation where the most powerful ( and evil) groups fight & claw their way to the top of every political, social, & corporate hierarchy. Then, when the regular citizens had suffered enough, they basically topple the system by force, and everything collapses. The rebuilding begins again.
We see the evil globalists right now, planning their hideouts & hoping the citizens will comply to the end game.
Digital ID’s are being pushed, and U.N.Agenda 21/30, is deeply embedded in mandatory city compliance policies & guidelines in the U.S. & internationally.
15 minute cities? Yep, this is it.
Divisiveness, IN OUR WORLD, has been a constant reminder that there are those that want us to hate each other, for all kinds of reasons.
In no particular order:
Religion, race, socioeconomic, political, culture, sexual preference, etc.
Why the constant chaos, hate, and manipulated media to push it all in our faces?
Because.. UNITED WE STAND!
Divided, we fall.
And if we can come together & rise up against this evil??!!
THE GAME IS SO, SO OVER FOR THEM.
And they know that.
I’m not sure why different cultures have the same stories that are similar, but I’ve thought a lot about this.
I think it’s to throw us all off. It’s manipulated evil & it’s not even true.
Because, only the Bible is true & the best way to minimize truth is to lie.
Satan is very good at that.
The flood with Noah was true. And there is proof in every continent that this happened, exactly the way the Bible describes. There’s a great documentary on this. It factually proves the devastation & the suddenness through the archaeology of living creatures, during the flood.
Bottom line ( for me), is I don’t have to understand everything & everybody that has come before. There are so many fake facts out right now, it might be imperative for society to start over. Isn’t it a sign when our citizen’s life spans are decreasing, instead of increasing? Our trust in health care is at an all- time low. Our dr.s have been indoctrinated instead of educated. ( maybe don’t save as many of the medical school books published in the last 50 years?) Seriously. Save more food- nutrition books.
Love & follow God, protect & love your family & neighbors, and love your country.
P.S. It’s important to not waste resources or abuse our environment. We are WAY off track w/ thinking our resources are limited or we have overpopulated our world. It’s quite the opposite. This was a manipulated narrative by the Rockefeller family, to get people to believe that humans were harming the world. And we would be ok with extra taxes, programs, & loss of freedoms, to save it.
Also wise wolf, & sorry this is long,
WE ARE SPECIAL!
That’s another globalist, evil, agenda that’s been pushed for decades.
( that we aren’t)
We were made in the image of our creator & the magic of life is what “ they” - the evil globalist planners, are trying to imitate & recreate.
They don’t want us to know the power we possess by being children of God.
We are beyond SPECIAL.
For those that accept Jesus as their savior, they will receive the same power that raised Jesus from the grave. ( through the Holy Spirit)
This is not a mythological claim, it is real.
This is why they want to close churches during lockdowns, there is power in those buildings that they can’t “ control.”
Read “ Mere Christianity” for more answers. 😇💕🇺🇸
God brought me to your thread. Your work is fantastic! I’m here to help and do what it takes to rebuild. Count me and my family in!
Interesting comments. I appreciate your research Wise Wolf - I found it very interesting. I have previously read of some parallels to the Biblical account of the flood etc. I personally don't see that as a conflict - but more confirmation. You have given me much to ponder and further research.
Thanks
Everything you shared I shared with others years ago. The wisdom of the ancestors of the Oriabi tribe and many tribal people have gathered to warn the masses of what’s coming.
Few came together but went off on different trails. The Shift is coming - sooner than people think. It is said that The Red race, White race, Yellow race & Black race “may” be preserved, but it would be the Red race that will survive above all others around the globe. The Reason? Because their ancestors have been through it before. (Hopi Prophecy), located in the 4 corners region of the US.
Biblical prophesy also alludes to an end. The tribulation will be a rocky road. Those who survive the cataclysm will be in dire straits before our solar system is completely destroyed and a new earth born.
https://open.substack.com/pub/echoesofedentv/p/fall-on-us?r=j0rz0&utm_medium=ios
Ecclesiastes 1:9-11:
The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us. There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
Interesting post…. Good ideas! So where is this place going to be? Have you decided yet?
I have a few acres of land up north but nowhere near what I’d need and I’d have to find some sort of rich benefactor willing to invest 10+ million to actually make this happen but people are more interested in throwing money at things like BLM or other scam charities than they are in actually creating something to help carry civilization forward through the darkest of times.
Sad, but true! People are still so asleep. Even most of the awake have gone back to being semi asleep…….back to, at least, semi listening to mainstream media, social media, etc…. In my book asleep…..
I’m not all doom and gloom. I think we are headed for a Golden Age. It’s just going to be a little rocky getting there as paradigms shift and the old ones die. People don’t know what to do unless they’re told. It’s the small self governed communities that are going to make it and will be the ones that eventually thrive…..at least at first. And, probably for a while. So your ideas are good and solid. Unfortunately, I don’t have any money to give. Lots of interesting life experience and a few thousand books…print and electronic. But, that’s about it. Other than the desire to find a small town or community of good, honest, helpful people to work WITH and build a solid foundation for future generations. Hopefully out of WA state.
By the way, I like the name of your article/post. It reminded me of The Moody Blues “Days of Future Passed” album name. Which was fitting because John Lodge had died just two or three days earlier. Justin Hayward is the only member left. They’re a favorite of mine. Even though that album was released exactly five months before I was born.
Have you noticed the beginning of the end of Substack recently? Every time I attempt to “like” a comment, I have to log in and enter a secret code. Then if I want to post a comment, I have to login and enter a secret code all over again just like I did three minutes earlier. I don’t know how long everyone else will put up with that ridiculous form of censorship but, the end is quickly nearing for me. They obviously sold their asses out to the highest bidder.
Thinking that we must preserve the products of civilization is idolatry.
All of Creation was set on a course for termination when Christ went to the cross.
The knowledge won't be lost. It is now and always has been with God. We were just borrowing it.
Are there any legends of 'Great Silver Birds' aka aeroplanes from previous cultures? It is some kind of meme floating around that I have heard over the years but I don't know if it has any historical basis.
"James Hilton’s “Lost Horizon” (1933). Walter M. Miller Jr.’s “A Canticle for Leibowitz” (1959). Isaac Asimov’s “Foundation” trilogy (1951-1953)."
Other novels that had some concern with the preservation of knowledge include Ray Bradbury's Fahrenheit 451 and Larry Niven's & Jerry Pournelle's Lucifer's Hammer, though the last was about a cometary impact.
Have you seen the videos of the UAPs flying along with missiles and inspecting them or possibly attempting to disarm them? I know it is the small grays but, I do not know if they are trying to save humanity from themselves or if they just have an interest in saving the planet.
Any species that spies on another is not friendly. They are not here to save anyone or the planet. They are what in military parlance would be called ‘scouts’. If they exist, they are an invasionary force.
Agree. I forget who it was that said something along the lines of truly peaceful civilizations with no aggressive thoughts of conquest, etc, would be at home and not here. So when we see some here, it should not automatically be assumed that they are peaceful and interested in saving people/planet.
Exactly. If they had good intentions, they would have shown up and immediately revealed themselves as peaceful. They would have opened up their ships, let us inspect them for weapons, placed themselves willingly in quarantine while we investigated them, given us technology freely, etc. If these things are really visiting our world and not revealing themselves its because they have nefarious motives. We have to assume alien species operate much in the same ways that we do. If a nation wants to invade another nation, they send spies and infiltrators. If this species is advanced enough to travel thousands of light years to Earth, they'd be advanced enough to create synthetic human robots that were indistinguishable from normal humans and use them to infiltrate every aspect of society and destroy it from within by introducing counter-productive propaganda to weaken the species... like say convincing young women to want criminal gangbanger men that will beat them and give them diseases after impregnating them with a few children they have no intention of raising, convincing young boys they are really girls and need to be on estrogen to grow boobs and dress in drag, pit every racial group against one another by bringing up 200 year old grievances that they have no right to be angry about because it DID NOT happen to them, convince women that they 'don't need no man' so men have no incentive to fight because they have nothing worth protecting - no loving, loyal wife, no kids in a loving home, etc... shit after writing all that, I am pretty sure we have been invaded by aliens...
The craft which crashed in 1947 and the one being still alive that was interviewed said the reason they were here is to investigate “Burning clouds” and we all know what caused that. Any civilization that far advanced, if hostile, could have eliminated us long ago. It doesn’t require for a civilization to be much more advanced to be more civilized than our own, who are frothing at the mouth to annihilate everyone.
You don't eliminate a race you intend to enslave or harvest for food.
You watch them.
To assume mankind would be at the top of the food PYRAMID (funny that choice...) is myopic.
Scripture flat out says the descendants of the ANU.NA.KI ate humans.
That is true. That is the reptilians of what is referred to as the Old Empire.
“We haven’t found pre-flood nuclear reactors or ancient circuit boards.”
More importantly we haven’t found any fission products in the environment that were created prior to 1945, other than the natural fission in the Oklo uranium deposits about 1.7 billion years ago.
Oklo isn't the only natural source of fission products prior to 1945.
Spontaneous fission occurs naturally in uranium-238 and thorium-232 deposits worldwide, creating fission products continuously over geological time. There are actually about 16 natural reactor zones identified at Oklo alone, not just one. Natural fission products exist in uranium ore deposits globally from ongoing spontaneous decay processes.
So while we haven't found evidence of artificial nuclear technology prior to 1945, saying Oklo is the only natural fission source is incorrect. Natural fission has been happening in heavy element deposits across the planet for billions of years.
Well, yes, I know about spontaneous fission. But it is, after all, spontaneous (i.e., not moderated). No one would confuse it, or Oklo, with Vedic reactor or bomb results.
BTW, ever read Michael O'Brien's Voyage to Alpha Centauri?
civilization, like language itself, is a creation of Lucifer and an abomination against Nature and Nature's God.
I strongly disagree with your characterization. The idea that civilization and language are creations of Lucifer contradicts multiple biblical accounts:
On Language: In Genesis, God is depicted as the first speaker - "God said, 'Let there be light.'" Language appears to be part of the divine order, not a demonic corruption. God uses language to create, to name, and to communicate with humanity. Adam is given the task of naming the animals (Genesis 2:19-20), suggesting language is part of humanity's God-given purpose.
On Civilization: After Cain builds the first city (Genesis 4:17), the Bible doesn't condemn city-building as inherently evil. Later, God establishes covenants with peoples and nations. The Bible culminates in Revelation with the vision of the New Jerusalem - a heavenly city, suggesting civilization's ultimate form is redemptive, not demonic.
On Human Cooperation: The Tower of Babel story (Genesis 11) isn't condemning language or civilization as Luciferian - it's about human pride and the attempt to reach heaven through human effort alone. God confuses the languages, but doesn't eliminate language itself.
Your "Nature's God" framing sounds more like Romantic primitivism than biblical theology. Scripture presents humans as created in God's image with the capacity and calling to cultivate the earth and build societies.
The bible is written. Written by men with language. God came before man, man came before words, words came before writing, writing came before the bible. Quite simply, the bible is a creation of man divinely inspired but without man's invention of writing the bible would not exist. Do you think Nature's God speaks or writes with the creations of men? I don't think so.
Your chronology is completely backwards here. You're assuming language is a human invention, but that's not what the tradition actually teaches.
In Jewish mysticism, Hebrew isn't something Adam made up - it was given to him by God. It's considered the primordial language, the actual language God used to speak creation into existence. When God said "Let there be light," those weren't placeholder sounds that got translated later. The words themselves were the creative force. Adam received this language to name creation, he didn't invent it.
And you're completely ignoring John 1:1: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." The Logos existed before creation, before humanity, before time. Language isn't some human trick that came after God - it's intrinsic to God's nature. God IS the Word.
You say God came before man, man came before words - but that only works if you assume language is purely human invention. The whole biblical claim is that God spoke FIRST, creating through divine speech, and then gave us language as a reflection of that divine attribute. Various traditions talk about Enochian and other angelic languages given by revelation, not invented by humans.
And honestly, if God can't use "the creations of men," then God can't use prophets, scribes, or human understanding at all. That makes all revelation impossible. Your Nature's God apparently can't communicate with creation, which is a pretty useless deity.
Re John Visher:
God: Do not eat the fruit of this tree!
Adam: grunt grunt grunt? (modern translation: What was that sound?)
/sarc off
Nature is not a BBC invention. Nature is God's Creation, or God is Nature's Creation. God = Nature = Love.
God would never have allowed the Bible to be written, if HE disapproved of it. And that it has lasted for all these centuries, shows even more proof of that. HE is all powerful and could have easily taken away all the writings that came together to form the Bible. Easily.
God wins.
Well unless you think that Cain or Azazel or Lucifer is ‘God’ then we don’t agree on that.
I think we both agree that God is good and Love wins. We disagree about the beginning. For me, God came before the word God. Before any words. The first people of australia call the beginning the Dreamtime. Before man, before earth, before light, before oceans and wind and rain. I equate God with the Dreamtime. No words. No light, no shadow. The Dreamtime cosmology is recreated in the transformation of the dreaming to man to words. I say man came before words, that words are a creation of man.
And I remember you recent post - Uncle of the Wise Wolf, rest in peace
That we do agree on.