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🐺The Wise Wolf's avatar

If the President wanted to end the war in Ukraine - this is how real detente works:

Step 1: Acknowledge Reality

Stop pretending this isn't a proxy war between the US and Russia. Everyone knows it is. Russia knows it, Ukraine knows it, we know it. The charade is pointless and prevents real negotiation.

Step 2: Direct US-Russia Negotiations

Bypass Ukraine entirely for the framework talks. This pisses off Ukraine, but they're not the ones with nuclear weapons pointed at each other. The real dispute is between Washington and Moscow about NATO expansion, sphere of influence, and European security architecture.

Step 3: Offer Putin Something He Actually Wants

Written guarantee that Ukraine never joins NATO

Formal recognition of Crimea as Russian territory (it's been 11 years, they're not giving it back)

Autonomous status for Donetsk and Luhansk with Russian security guarantees

Lifting of sanctions in phases tied to withdrawal milestones

Step 4: Give Ukraine Something Worth Taking

Marshall Plan-level reconstruction funding ($100+ billion)

EU membership fast-track

Security guarantees from US (not NATO, but bilateral)

Keep all territory except Crimea and negotiated autonomous regions

Step 5: Create Face-Saving Narrative for All Sides

Putin tells Russians he "denazified" Ukraine and prevented NATO expansion

Ukraine tells their people they saved 80% of their country and got EU membership

Trump tells Americans he ended the war Biden couldn't, made the greatest deal in history, and prevented World War III

Step 6: Immediate Implementation

Ceasefire within 72 hours

Russian withdrawal to agreed lines within 30 days

International monitoring force (non-NATO countries like India, Brazil)

Prisoner exchanges and humanitarian corridors

The Trump Reality:

Trump actually has advantages here that Biden didn't. Putin respects strength and Trump's unpredictability. Putin also knows Trump isn't ideologically committed to Ukrainian victory the way the Democratic foreign policy establishment was. Trump can make deals Democrats couldn't without being called traitors.

But Trump's ego problem after Alaska means he might be too wounded to negotiate rationally. That's the real danger - his need to look tough after getting schooled might prevent the pragmatic dealmaking that could actually end this thing.

pyrrhus's avatar

Nice try.., but 1.the neo-nazi Azov folks who actually control Ukraine need to be eliminated or the problem isn't solved, 2. Putin has to have all Russian speaking areas and the Black Sea ports to avoid more sabotage, 3..American security guarantees are just as worthless as NATO's...as Trump's own record shows, 4. all sanctions removed and the stolen 300 billion returned, and 5..Ukraine needs a neutral government with a small military, like the rest of Europe...

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You're conflating maximalist Russian talking points with actual negotiation. Let me break down why your "corrections" miss the point:

Azov obsession: The "neo-Nazi" framing is Russian propaganda. Azov is one battalion in a country of 40+ million. Putin isn't actually fighting Nazis - he's fighting Ukrainian independence. Real negotiations focus on territorial and security arrangements, not chasing boogeyman narratives.

"All Russian-speaking areas": This is ethnic cleansing logic. Millions of Russian speakers in Ukraine opposed the invasion. Language ≠ loyalty. Even Zelenskyy is a native Russian speaker. Your proposal essentially rewards aggression with massive territorial conquest.

Security guarantees: You're right they're imperfect, but they're still deterrents. The goal isn't perfect protection - it's raising the cost of future aggression enough to make it unprofitable. Bilateral US guarantees carry different weight than NATO Article 5.

Sanctions and frozen assets: Russia invaded a sovereign country. Those assets were frozen as lawful countermeasures. Full removal with no accountability just signals that aggression pays if you're patient enough.

"Neutral government": You're describing regime change imposed by Moscow. That's not negotiation - that's capitulation. Ukraine gets to choose its own government, not have one imposed by its invader.

Your "solutions" aren't compromise - they're just giving Putin everything he wanted before he invaded. That's not how you end conflicts; that's how you guarantee the next one.

The whole point of real diplomacy is finding middle ground both sides can live with, not handing one side a complete victory.

the NSA sucks dick 24/7's avatar

Putin is correct when he says the US is being controlled by demons.

He also stated in public that the US and the NWO worship Satan and he is their nemesis.

I already know Trump is in bed with Satan and rapes little girls. The stupid God damned sheep think Trump is playing 5D chess when it's actually Putin. Trump isn't smart enough and is driven by ego. Trump the chump. I'm rootin' for Putin.

Putin also made it illegal to practice Satanism.

In America it's illegal to speak out against Satanism. That's known as being an antisemite.

Mooon's avatar

At the Alaska meeting, Mr. Putin was very friendly and cordial, even after the idiotic fighter jet scramble as they were walking into the place. Trump acted like a smug asshole when he spoke. I felt totally ashamed.

Mooon's avatar

Trumpet’s ego will not even let him realize that he made a complete fool of himself going to supposedly try and stop a war that the Ukraine has already lost. Trump had nothing to offer. Mr. Putin has known all along that it is a proxy war between Russia and the US and is very aware of why. No one is fooled but trump. The only thing that trumpet can offer is to stop sending weapons, cash, and troops. Otherwise, trump is pissing in the fan. I voted for the trumper, believing his bullshit lies about ending all wars. Like all others, I was fooled. Never again!! Most people do not even know the two primary reasons we are involved in the conflict.

1. The Ukraine is the world’s largest child trafficking hub. And it’s not looking good that now trump is protecting that just as the O’Bidens did.

2. Russia is a major hurdle in completing their one-world government and the cabal wants that so bad, they are frothing at the mouth rabid about it and will sacrifice ANYTHING to accomplish that goal.

I am totally embarrassed about trumpy’s actions and ashamed that I voted for such a fool. Mr. Putin clearly told them in the beginning that he would melt the Ukraine before he will allow nato to install nukes at Russia’s border. I do not blame him. The US are the aggressors in the conflict and it needs to end. Mr. Putin has exhibited extraordinary grace and restraint throughout the aggressive attacks and threats on Russia but, understandably, he is growing tired of it. Everyone has their limit as to how much they will take. We all should be thanking the Lord that Mr. Putin isn’t someone who wants to nuke other countries. If that were the case, we would no longer be here. I would have thought that trump’s ego would went down a few notches from his approval rating now dropping below 20% but, nope!! He still acts like a five year old who had his ice cream knocked out of his hand.

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Trump’s business swagger might work in boardrooms, but it’s no match for Putin, a stone-cold strategist forged in a brutal world. From poverty to the KGB, Putin seized Russia’s reins, wiping out thousands of rivals with ruthless precision. He’s got more nukes and resources than the U.S., and I’m convinced Russia’s old tanks in Ukraine were a deliberate ploy to hide their real military power. The media’s mockery of their “shitty tech” misses Putin’s game—he’s too smart to flaunt his advanced arsenal for all to see. Russia’s a sleeping giant, its soldiers bred in hardship: raised on vodka, enduring frozen homes without water, thriving on fighting and grit. Even their “softest” would crush most of America’s toughest. Russians are built for war, willing to burn the world before losing. Against Putin’s calculated menace, Trump’s bravado looks dangerously outclassed.

Mooon's avatar

Very true! And Putin can show a real leader how to surgically remove the Zionist parasites from a government but, it will not be pretty.

Chris's avatar

Your post would read more like the smart person that I'm sure you are but not for the cutesy little name substitutions.

Trumpet trumpy trumper

Just use the capitalized proper name and you'll come across as more credible. I promise.

Mooon's avatar

You may be right although I do not fret over credibility as my commentary is generally ignored. I was actually trying to be nice with the names and usually have other words to represent trump. And yes, until recently I would intentionally use uppercase Ts for the name. I find it odd all of the other common-word names which the dictionary capitalizes but, still not trump.

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The sooner people stop writing about Trump the sooner this charade will be over. The man was deliberately inserted as a distraction as never in the entire history of politics has there ever been anyone more intellectually disabled than he is. What more proof could anyone need when simply listening to him speak? He's a man child.

First came Dementia Joe followed by this buffoon and still people continue to believe all of it as if there were a scintilla of truth to any of it. It's all political theater - a dog and pony show and yet people continue to buy into it as though it were real. You know 1% of what transpires in Washington hence why ALL OF IT is theater to keep the dissenters and morons entertained.

Forest Gump Trump is nothing more than a hologram they've concocted. He could suck the oxygen off the entire planet which is exactly why they made sure he was inserted. His entire exitance is a lie solidified by the trial in New York - granted an "appeals court" (no corruption and malfeasance there though, right) has since thrown out the 350 million dollar fine however the charges for inflating the value of his properties in order to obtain "favorable" loans and committing egregious fraud still stands. In addition to being banned from conducting any business in NYC.

The man is shyster robbing from Peter to pay Paul to give an illusion of great wealth hence now being a "convicted" felon after the jury found him guilty on 34 counts of falsifying his business records. How much more irrefutable, indisputable evidence to people need? It's no different than attempting to hide Bidens diminished capacity which dated back to 2018!

It is truly astounding and defies all rational logic that people continue to write about Trump as though he actually exists. If the man had even TWO living brain cells they would kill each other. Stop using the word Trump but rather write the US and or this administration - the sooner people refuse to partake in this ruse the sooner the Trump ruse will be exposed for what it was from Day One.

pyrrhus's avatar

The current situation would in no way be improved by having an alcoholic whore with an IQ of 80 in the WH as nominal President...Trump at least has made some progress against the neocons, while Kamala would be a non-player, with the neocons ruling by autopen....

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Kamala is an idiot. She was deliberately ran to ensure Trump's victory. You seem to be under the impression that the USA is still a Republic. It isn't and has not been in decades. This is an oligarchy now in everything but name.

Second, neoconservatives are traditionally hawkish interventionists who favor military solutions and democracy promotion abroad - think Dick Cheney, John Bolton, Bill Kristol. Harris ran on a relatively restrained foreign policy platform compared to traditional neoconservative positions.

Not disagreeing with you about Harris. I voted for Trump because the alternative was 10,000 times worse and that was deliberate. She was such a shit candidate that it caused many Democrats to vote Republican just to ensure she would not be in office.

It didn't really matter who won though. They are both part of the Lodge cult.

the NSA sucks dick 24/7's avatar

Yup. That's how it works. Create the chaos so the sheep will beg for order. Their order. The NWO.

Biden and Kamala were the chaos. Trump is the order. The sheep always get played.

the NSA sucks dick 24/7's avatar

“If you can't spot the mark within 5 minutes of sitting at the table then you are the mark”.

You should leave the table because you are the mark.

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So selling a billion dollars of ballistic missiles to a nation that is in a direct conflict with the most dangerous superpower on the planet is 'stopping' the war? To me, that sounds a lot more like trying to escalate it. You do not put out a grease fire by pouring oil onto it. Furthermore, this war has NOTHING to do with the USA. We should not be involved in this conflict AT ALL. Ukraine was a Russian territory and part of their Iron Curtain for decades. They seceded. They brought this on themselves. It has NOTHING to do with us. Why are my tax dollars going to support some homosexual comedian former porn star (Seriously, Zelensky was in gay porn) in his pissing contest with, effectively, the most dangerous person on the planet?